> To: [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:17:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Common Denominator for ES
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> KB,  I'm glad you found my response useful.  If Xiang Sha Liu Jun Zi Tang
> works for you, that's great!  I've seen that formula help ES before, and I
> think that by both strengthening the body's qi and transforming the damaged
> fluids, it helps different aspects of the problem.  Chinese herbs are never
> "this formula for that condition" but it makes sense that it helps with
> this, and since you've taken it before with positive results, it sounds
> like a good idea!  Of course, sometimes the formula may stop working, or
> need to be modified,
>  The only general caution I have with ES patients, when it comes to herbs,
> is to be careful about the source of your herbs.  Many are from China and
> are not tested for heavy metals, which are all over China.  KPC is a good
> brand; Golden Flower is as well; and there are many such brands that
> undergo extensive metal and pesticide testing, but just buying whatever is
> in Chinatown is not necessarily a good idea.
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> Elizabeth, I totally agree about the kidney meridian as well.  Kidney 1,
> the point on the bottom of the foot, is extremely grounding - stimulation
> just by pressing, by rubbing in circles, by using an earth-frequency tuning
> fork, and using grounding equipment can be very useful.  In addition, the
> kidney meridian is involved in every chronic disease - the kidneys are the
> sources of yin and yang in the body, and in chronic conditions, those
> become damaged.  I'm glad to hear your daughter had such good results with
> stimulation of the kidney meridian!  Sounds like that channel was acutely
> effected in her case.  Often people who are sensitive to radiation are also
> sensitive to therapies like acupuncture/acupressure where the energy
> systems are being addressed - and that's wonderful that she found someone
> who could help.
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> Best,
> Amanda
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> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>wrote:
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> > Amanda,
> > Your information is interesting and makes sense. I like that description:
> > Heat Pathogen.
> > Microwaves cook from the inside out- so the burning, being fried sensation
> > is quite
> > accurate.
> > From another Chinese perspective.
> > I have found it is often the Kidney areas: as the kidneys are said to be
> > a storehouse for Ch'i, the body and all the organs need Ch'i to thrive, so
> > the
> > health and vitality of each organ depends upon the energy of the kidneys.
> > Stimulating
> > the Kidney meridian point known as: Bubbling Springs enlivens the Kidneys
> > and is said to
> > rejuvenate the spirit. This point is on the bottom of the foot, just above
> > what would be
> > the center of the bottom side of the foot. If you feel around there with
> > your fingers,
> > you might find the spot that is tender. Pressing and holding for a minute
> > can do
> > wonders. It is not surprising that the Kidneys would be important, as they
> > are located
> > just below the Adrenal glands. As the Adrenals and Thyroid are more often
> > then not- implicated in any
> > chronic health issue, with the Kidneys being located and attached to the
> > Adrenals, the Kidney
> > cannot be left out of the healing equation.
> > The Kidney/Ch'i info is from the book: "Healing With Pressure Point
> > Therapy" by Jack Forem and
> > Steve Shimer.
> > I have found using Pressure Point Therapy very helpful. I have used this
> > therapy on friends/family
> > and have yet, to find one, that wasn't helped by it. My intro to this
> > wonderful technique, came by way
> > of an ear ache my daughter had, back when she was severely ES. I must have
> > tried 6-7 diff't natural
> > remedies with that ear ache, that persisted for days upon days. Within
> > minutes of using Pressure Point,
> > my daughter's ear ache lessoned immediately upon the first treatment. It
> > took a few more treatments
> > until it was completely gone, but I was SOLD on this therapy. I have since
> > come to realize that strong
> > exposures to either wireless radiation/dirty electr/ seems to throw the
> > body's electrical system off
> > and cause seemingly unrelated aches/pains, such as the ear ache mentioned
> > above.
> > Blessings,
> > Lizzie
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> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > From: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:03:51 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Common Denominator for ES
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> > > Hi there,
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> > > This may be a rather unsatisfying answer, but I haven't noticed any
> > > particular organ that is weak in ES patients. That said, one thing does
> > > seem to be common in this population, and that is fluid metabolism
> > issues.
> > > Radiation is a heat pathogen, the way I look at it, and in people
> > > predisposed to fluids in their body being disrupted, it can scorch the
> > > healthy body fluids and make those fluids unable to nourish the organs.
> > > This will effect whatever organ is weak in them - lungs, stomach, liver,
> > > and pericardium are the ones I've seen, but my sample size is not huge.
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> > > To clarify - the organs I mention are organ systems, from a chinese
> > > medicine perspective, NOT the physical organs that western medicine
> > > defines. That doesn't mean they don't correlation between them, but they
> > > aren't identical. From a western perspective, Elizabeth is correct - a
> > > common denominator is the gene that detoxifies certain heavy metals. The
> > > specific metals, as well as the organs they affect, can very person to
> > > person, and that leads to a wide range of symptoms.
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> > > Heat-clearing treatments seem the most effective at relieving symptoms,
> > > rather than nourishing the fluids - the fluids are damaged from the heat,
> > > but can't be rebuilt while the heat keeps being added. I think of heavy
> > > metal detoxification as a heat-clearing treatment, in the perspective of
> > my
> > > medicine. Fluids should be nourished as this treatment is maintained.
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> > > I hope you find this helpful. Please remember this is just the
> > > opinion/experience of one acupuncturist, and it is by no means absolute
> > > (this medicine never is). I also feel the need to give the caveat that I
> > > am not giving any sort of diagnosis to anyone - I can't do that without
> > > seeing a person and palpating their meridians.
> > >
> > > -Amanda
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> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu <
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> > > > Thanks. I'll look it up.
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> > > > Elizabeth thode wrote thus at 12:15 17/04/2012:
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> > > > >Kb,I"m sure Amanda will pop up, but in the meantime, there is a very
> > > > thought provokingarticle I read- that when you step back and think
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> > > > it, makes a huge amount of senseregarding ES. I have often wondered
> > why the
> > > > rates for autism and for ES both appearto rise at the same approx time
> > > > periods. While it is true that vaccine doses did alsoincrease, I found
> > > > myself wondering if it was autism at the early ages and ES at theolder
> > > > ages. You know like, maybe autism is really heavy metal poisoning plus
> > > > wirelessradiation. As this article demonstrates, both Es and Autism
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> > > > often then not, involvethe body's in ability to detox heavy metals. So
> > > > maybe the common denominator is thewireless raidation. And whatever
> > > > individual weakness that particular person has, will bethe area most
> > > > effected. Which well explains at least in part, why the symptoms are
> > > > allover the place. Just like the symptoms for autism are. As
> > attachments
> > > > won't work on this site, google: It Just Makes Sense- by Nancy
> > Sarangan.
> > > > Blessings Lizzie
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> > > > >From: [hidden email]
> > > > >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:00:00 +0800
> > > > >Subject: [eSens] Common Denominator for ES
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