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Elizabeth thode on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Basement-Homes-tp3552248p3559351.html
Hi Diane,
I have a friend who lives in Flint, Mi. Flint is pretty big, not as big as Detroit, but fairly close. He lives in the industrial part of town....I kid you not, when he moved there, this past May, he lost power EVERY WEEK- for like 3 months straight- And not just when it stormed, either. And there have been untold power line transmission fires all over the country! And in most of those areas...THEY HAVE SMART METERS!! Yes, I copied ths info...cuz guess what? It's NO longer posted on the internet!
I have another friend who lives in New Jersey. HIs folks live in one of those senior settlements...like subdivisions on top of subdivisions...those idiot builders..instead of upgrading the Ele- THEY SIMPLY TURNED UP THE POWER. The ele fields are OFF the charts. The minute he drives in to the area...he can FEEL it! That same area is known for people getting shocked in their outdoor hottubs.....A few of them managed to sue. But how many didn't even know?
Do I think this is un common? I wish. I live in an old neighborhood...and there is so much stray current on the street!!! My daughter won't even go OUT there!
I make daggone sure to keep my dog's AWAY from the power poles, light poles, metal grates...ect! They can pee on trees! That's IT!
I've got them so well trained, they now WALK around the metal grates! I was walking my dogs down the lit't downtown area here in town one day and my one dog JUMPED.....
and then she seemed to tremble and I knew she'd gotten a SHOCK!
So am I suprised there's CURRENT in my water? NO! I haven't used my tap water in 3 mths and we are BETTER OFF hauling water!
There's my twin rant for the day!
Blessings and positve changes ARE COMING!
Lizzie
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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:43:00 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] a rant about "the new reality", (formerly RF DOES PIGGYBACK....)
Hi, Lizzie,
<In just the past year, go back and count HOW many power outages have
occurred, in all the different states, how many millions were without
power, and for how long some of these outages have lasted?>
In our new neighborhood, the power goes off about once/ day--only minutes each time usually, but nearly DAILY! Also, the phones experience outages--I never even heard of that happening before. The neighbor across the street can not phone either me or the neighbor to her right. For whatever reason, she says she never gets thru. This has been going on for months off and on. For over a week, I could also not call out (at all) at one point. And at our old house, once we went over to digital from analog, we experience outages of reception multiple times nightly--for seconds to minutes--either in picture or voice reception. This also was something which never happened before. Prior, the only time reception went out was during hurricane force winds. So much for "progress", eh?
I long for the good old days. Today, it looks like an all out push to destroy planet Earth. Here's another picture of
reality:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/06/percy-schmeiser-farmer-who-beat-monsanto.aspx?e_cid=20111130_DNL_art_A4Diane
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Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] RF DOES PIGGYBACK ON HOUSE WIRING
I believe what she and other engineers and electrical experts are saying is that RF can lead to arcing on the wiring, which can lead to electrical fires. Numbers are numbers...reality is, many houses contain older wiring, or wiring that is weakened. In that weakened state, the wiring is vulnerable. There have been HUNDREDS of house fires reported from smartmeters. An entire neighborhood set up with smartmeters would not (in my opinon) be an insignificant source of RF. The grid is old and antiquidated. It was never updated to handle the RF from not just smartmeters and their mesh system, but any wireless systems, which we all know are practically everywhere. Now add in normal household wiring, which was never intended for wifi/RF. Now you have: 1) antiquidated grid transmission system. 2) older houses with older wiring. 3) Newer and older houses using tons more electrical appliances then the grid was designed to handle. 4) Broadband over powerlines, yet
another source of electrical pollution. 5) Any house connected to city water will also have dirty electricity/stray voltage piggybacking on the water lines, entering the house. 6) Many houses still have the electrical grounded to the water pipes (in Mich, this is now against code).......all in all....a recipe for disaster. Your use of the word "insignificant" might apply to ONE of the above factors, but in reality, how many houses only have ONE of these factors? And how many have three or four of them? *And I haven't even factored in the conditions of the utility poles/power lines/substations/ect.
In just the past year, go back and count HOW many power outages have occurred, in all the different states, how many millions were without power, and for how long some of these outages have lasted? True enough, we can't ignore the bizarre weather patterns. However, the shear amt of powerline transmisiion fires that occurred with no bad weather!
Lizzie
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> Subject: Re: [eSens] RF DOES PIGGYBACK ON HOUSE WIRING
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> Is Cindy Sage saying the heating from the RF of dirty electricity is going
> to cause house fires? That strikes me as absurd. Yes the 3rd harmonic
> (180 Hz) can be a problem for motors and such, and the higher harmonics
> just contribute more, but the joule heating from the RF is insignificant
> unless you have a serious broadcasting set up. At 1 MHz or so it can go
> quite far on wiring, but by the time you get to 2.4 GHz, no. There's too
> much inductance (which is proportional to loop area times frequency). I've
> never noticed microwave readings being higher near wiring, but the AM radio
> will sure buzz...
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> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Elizabeth thode <
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> > Yes folks. This is true.
> > Lizzie
> > Commentary by Cindy Sage, Sage Associates and James J. Biergiel, EMF
> > Electrical Consultant July 2010
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> > Typical gauge electrical wiring that provides electricity to buildings (60
> > Hz power) is not constructed or intended to carry high frequency harmonics
> > that are increasingly present on normal electrical wiring. The exponential
> > increase in use of appliances, variable speed motors, office and computer
> > equipment and wireless technologies has greatly increased these harmonics
> > in community electrical grids and the buildings they serve with
> > electricity. Harmonics are higher frequencies than 60 Hz that carry more
> > energy, and ride along on the electrical wiring in bursts. Radio
> > frequency (RF) is an unintentional by-product on this electrical wiring
> > Electrical wiring it is not sized for the amount of energy that radio
> > frequency and microwave radiation. These unintended signals that can come
> > from new wireless sources of many kinds are particularly a worry for the
> > new smart meters that produce very high intensity radio frequency energy in
> > short bursts. Electrical fires are likely to be a potential problem.
> > Electrical wiring was never intended to carry this what amounts to an RF
> > pollutant on the wiring. The higher the frequency, the greater the
> > energy contained. Its not the voltage, but it is the current that
> > matters. RF harmonics on electrical systems can come from computers,
> > printers, FAX machines, electronic ballasts and other sources like variable
> > speed motors and appliances that distort the normal, smooth 60 hertz sine
> > wave of electrical power and put bursts of higher energy RF onto the wiring.
> > Wireless smart meters dont intentionally use the electrical system to
> > send their RF signal back to the utility (to report energy usage, etc).
> > But, when the wireless signal is produced in the meter
it boomerangs
> > around on all the conductive components and can be coupled onto the wiring,
> > water and gas lines, etc. where it can be carried to other parts of the
> > residence or building.
> > It is an over-current condition on the wiring. It produces heat where the
> > neutral cannot properly handle it. The location of the fire does NOT have
> > to be in close proximity to the main electrical panel where the smart meter
> > is installed.
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> > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:31:51 +0000
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Basement Homes?
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> > I do think that broadband is travelling on the wires. Maybe it is
> > induction as the cable wires are right next to the power line wires.
> > Telephone wires too.
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> > K
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> > > Wi-Fi won't go very far on wiring (probably a few inches, though it
> > > could travel further in shielded wiring). Although the same pulse
> > > structure might appear in the dirtly electricity do to power supply loads
> > > pulsing with the microwaves.
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> > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:37 AM, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:
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> > > > Loni,
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> > > > I think a basement would help IF one does not have underground wiring &
> > > > radon & mold free. .
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> > > > We have one, it helps but I feel the underground wiring & have to have
> > > > safer wiring that will run above your head. There will be wire free
> > ceiling
> > > > places you can locate.
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> > > > I tested
> > > > w my cheaper meter at 1 Gauss on the floor. I'm pretty sure wi-fi is on
> > > > our wring.
> > > > I read .06 mw/m 2 RF at an outlet. We have from ..01 - .03 in our free
> > > > space *& live in a valley.
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> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > From: Loni <loni326@...>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Basement Homes?
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> > > > Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 11:28 AM
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> > > > Do you think a basement home would sheild some of the Cell radiation?
> > > > Anyone have one that can advise?
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> > > > Does the cell antenna's rf ride in on your elecrtrical wires in your
> > home?
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> > > > Thanks, Loni
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