Posted by Andrew McAfee on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Internet-off-HDTV-out-HAARP-mind-control-etc-tp3175481p3176789.html

Stephen,
I agree with you. I have given 9/11 presentations as well as a presentation
at the State Museum in SC on "Ancient Astronauts." From this, I have learned
that if you want the most people to be joined together in a movement, you
have to have the least amount of agreed upon points.

If we are to be united against wireless radiation, everyone does not have to
agree upon 9/11, CO2, etc.

I could get most everyone to understand that explosives were used on 9/11
and that the "official" conspiracy story was wrong, but 95% of us could not
agree on who the real perps were (international bankers, Israel, CIA,
England, Illuminati, Cheney/Haliburton, all of the above...)

So in order to solidify and unify, I recommend we not busy ourselves with
bringing everyone up to speed that comes on the list with 10 years of
learning of the many paths that lead us back to the head of Medusa, but just
1 year of learning about one topic, cell phones, towers, smart meters,
Wi-Fi, etc. and how bad that is for everyone.

I think we will get more done, have more help, etc.

I am glad that you know about the larger picture. You are invaluable to me.
Keep on. What is your take on Elenin? (off line, direct communication
please)

my 2 cents,
Andrew

On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:49 AM, stephen_vandevijvere wrote:

Gary Null thinks CO2 causes global warming, well CO2 causing climate change
is one big hoax, read Svensmark or any other scientist that looks beyond one
century of climate change,

The goal for the elite is controlling us even more, so they can easily
implement one world government and lowering population,

They do this by, well a lot, look around!:

-controlling every important politician, every president...

-CO2 lie: so we would more easily admit the necessity for one world
government for taxes on CO2 etc. (first they cause one polluted world and
now they're suggesting the sollution) (United Nations, North American Union,
EU,...)

-blaming capitalism, so we'll get so sick of capitalism that we'll start to
want communism (the problem is fascism/corporatism, the economy and
especially the bankers that control everything)

-communism, socialism,... (by the way I'm not against the ideology of
socialism and communism, but with socialism/communism there's way too much
power to the government and centalized power is always abused)

-New Age and 60's stuff, we're all united etc. with one purpose: so we'll
give up on religions (secularization: check a one dollar bill: "novus ordo
seclorum" or "Secular New World Order")

-Fukushima, wars, Fluoride, chemtrails, HAARP, electrosmog, implanted chips,
not allowing cancer to be cured, tv/music full of bad vibes, etc.: keeping
us lame, stupid, calm and lowering human population

-destroying all values, such as ethics and family values (by introducing
porn, promoting playboy lifestyle everywhere)

By the way, imo this post is definitely not off topic, because the entire
system, us people being controlled by the elite/Illuminati and our health
affected is the main reason why there are electrosmog-problems in the first
place...

Imo what the elite does not want is that we believe in:
-freedom (as in the "Bill of Rights"!)
-God
-human and ethical values

If we claim our freedom back they can't control us...

www.rense.com
is a good site with lots of info

gr,
Stephen.

Andrew McAfee