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All audio CD's can be played on any regular CD player, even in the car radio CD player.
Of course they can be played on a computer also.
Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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From: Evie
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Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Rife and detox
Hi, Charles,
Thanks for all the info on Rife. I did not see much with it from my past trial, but now you mention small machines which you can get to do it. What are the names of these machines, if you know them easily? I think I was getting distortion of frequencies when I tried this. [Mainly, since tho, I have chosen to strengthen my immune system via pH, supplementation, liver healing.... So this then has enabled my immune system to attack and kill invaders on its own. (Not that I still do not have invaders; they come in constantly due to many of my tjs being dysfunctional.)]
Can you play the CD you mention on a regular CD player or do you have to use a computer? I own a Walkman and a regular CD player. Would these distort the frequencies on the CD?
I agree that it makes much more sense to treat the body than it does to look for shielding (tho I still do both). Otherwise, we will sooner or later have to be locked away in underground caves to survive. (And actually that wouldn't meet our needs either.)
Thanks again, Charles,
Diane
--- On Sat, 7/2/11, charles <
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> From: charles <
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> Subject: Re: [eSens] Rife and detox
> To:
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> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 1:45 PM
> Last week I got the very old age of
> 73.
> Most people think that I am 60 or even in the fifties.
>
> But we use noe many, many years frequency therapy.
>
> The only medication we use is colloidal silver.
>
> For using Rife and Clark frequencies, there arenice small
> machines, which are not expensive.
>
> Of course, there is the *poor man's Rife*, but I do not use
> that.
> In my opinion, the sounds produces by computer with their
> sound cards may distort the frequencies.
>
> One may use a small programm, called NCH Tone generator.
> With it, one can generate the needed frequencies, square
> waves for Rife and 300000 ms duration.
> The generated waves can be saved as WAV files on your hard
> disk, and burned to an audio CD.
> That way, there is practically no loss. Do not use MP3,
> which may distort the frequencies.
>
> See:
http://educate-yourself.org/nch/ >
> For the needed Rife frequencies
> Google for the CAFL or The Consolidated Annotated Frequency
> List (CAFL)
> And there are other sources.
>
> During some years I gave my customers an Audio CD for
> healing their electrosensitivity, which had good results.
> Nowadays I do that with other means.
> It is not a *gizmo* which does something against the
> longitudinal waves, but is mainly developed for reparing the
> damaged immune system.
>
> A few years ago, my wife was not capable for shopping in a
> shopping center.
> This morning we were there, and whyen we paid our bills, I
> asked my wife how she considered the DECT phone at the
> cashier. She sais that she saw it, but did not feel
> anything.
> (Years ago she jumped at the ceiling by a DECT.)
>
> The storm of protests over mobile phone masts has lowered.
> Now the boom is smart meters.
> But beware, LTE is coming.
> And for that the providers are dispersing wireless modems
> which give two signals.
> One for the user of the computer, and one for the passersby
> on the street.
> Apparently, the first intention was to use pico or femto
> cells at the wall of the houses, but now it seems that the
> modems readiate so strong, that these cells are not
> necessary.
> (And the holder of the modem pays for the electricity,
>
> One may shield the home on all sides, but electrosensitives
> can not go onto the street then.
> The time of the Third Reich was more human in comparison.
>
> PS. A *Zapper* is a nice instrument, but not a good
> frequency generator, because it generates only ONE
> frequency, which is by far not sufficiant.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
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>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Elizabeth thode
> To:
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> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 7:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [eSens] Rife and detox
>
>
>
> Both of you have presented wonderful information.
> Was just re-familiarizing myself with the chlorella/
> cilantro formula.
> And yes, on the chemtrails? Believe IT!
> Lizzie
> > To:
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> > From:
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> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:59:48 -0400
> > Subject: [eSens] Rife and detox
> >
> > I agree with Charles. And, it is a little of
> the chicken and egg theory as well. Manfred Mueller, one of
> the US's top homeopaths teaches that underlying the
> mycoplasma diseases (MS, etc.) lies the mercury
> contamination issue. Many of the fungus/bacteria live off of
> the mercury and other heavy metals which also destroy the
> body's own ability to detoxify. So as long as the heavy
> metals are present, the glutathione production/liver detox
> function is down.
> >
> > My experience has shown when an aggressive
> detox regime is attempted, these myco/fungus/bacteria bugs
> migrate with the metals and infections spread throughout the
> body, where ever the metals get spread (since most detox
> chelators are imperfect), brain, intestines, colon, etc.
> >
> > Mueller uses Cilantro in Mother Tincture form
> with Chlorella to sop up the extra metals for a 2-5 or more
> year period (slow detox).
> > I think you must also kill off the bugs as you
> chelate.
> >
> > Allicin Garlic, colloidal silver, Rife
> Frequencies, etc. in conjunction with the cilantro/chlorella
> 5 times a week for a couple years is a minimum procedure.
> >
> > This is complex and no one should embark upon
> an aggressive detox regime without reading a lot on it or
> you will pay dearly, like I have.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > On Jul 2, 2011, at 11:22 AM, charles wrote:
> >
> > > There is no reason ahving a fatalistic
> attitude with MS.
> > >
> > > Many people have resolved these problems
> with Rife frequency therapy.
> > >
> > > I quote here from the *The Rife Handbook*
> by nenah Sylver:
> > > *****************************
> > > With all autoimmune disorders, the
> body’s
> > >
> > > immune cells attack the person’s own
> tissues. Autoimmune
> > >
> > > disorders are often due to the presence of
> tiny Mycoplasma—
> > >
> > > so-called “stealth pathogens”—whose
> lack of a cell wall allow
> > >
> > > them to invade our cells and assume some
> of the properties
> > >
> > > of our own tissue. O ur immune cells sense
> something hiding
> > >
> > > in our cells, and attack them.
> > >
> > > If the Mycoplasma invade the central
> nervous system, the
> > >
> > > disease is Multiple Sclerosis (although MS
> can also have a
> > >
> > > non-autoimmune origin). I f the Mycoplasma
> invade our joints,
> > >
> > > the disease is rheumatoid arthritis. If
> the body attacks foreign
> > >
> > > proteins that it mistakes for its own
> tissues, resulting in a
> > >
> > > severe inflammatory response that could be
> anywhere, the
> > >
> > > disease is Lupus erythematosus.
> > >
> > > *****************************
> > > I have no proof, but I believe that the
> chemtrails contain Mycoplasma's, which is a breeding ground
> for a lot of diseases.
> > >
> > > The only disadvantage of a Rife frequency
> therapy is, that it consumes a lot of time.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Evie
> > > To:
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> > > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: testing question
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Stephen,
> > >
> > > I was mis-dxed with MS for 2 years (in
> 1980s). After I had MRIs (early 1990s), the specialist
> concluded I did not have actual MS. I did show abnormalties
> on brain scans, but he concluded, from the preponderance of
> symptoms I was having (MS-like symptoms in all quadrants of
> my body), that it was not MS. I also have the problem with
> the V. Jugularis veins, but mine comes and goes. (When I
> have it, however, it could sometimes be causing stroke/
> seizures; I recognise a tightened feeling in my neck after
> many years of it coming and going, and I do notice this is
> when I am at higher risk for having strokes/ seizures and
> especially migraine-type episodes.)
> > >
> > > I mention all of this because it appears
> *to me* (I have not read this anywhere) that the clogging of
> the V. Jugularis is caused directly by calcium efflux. And I
> assume this is why it "comes and goes" for me. If this is
> true, it could mean we have commonalities with MS, but not
> necessarily that we all have MS. It is already known, I
> believe, that MS is an ion channel disease. (I may be wrong
> about this being a proven conclusion, however, I know it has
> been suspected for many years by Dr. Alessio Fasano, and
> others, and studies were at least undertaken to check for
> that.) If MS is, however, a channelopathy (as is celiac
> disease), it would mean people with MS, celiac disease, and,
> likely, ES all have commonalities, but not necessarily the
> same exact disease.
> > >
> > > The reason this is important is, people
> with MS can have a steady down-hill road to debilitation and
> incapacitation. One who believes they have MS can easily
> become trapped into thinking there is no hope and this is
> their fate. However, consider me: I was nearly completely
> bed-bound for 13 years, barely able to live a normal life
> for most of my life before that, and here I am; I now hike
> and bike and work nearly as well as a normal person. True,
> my health is not 100%, but I am nothing like I used to be.
> If you keep looking into MS, be sure that you do not fall
> into a fatalistic attitude on the way. Your attitude is all
> you have; docs don't have the answers, science doesn't have
> all the answers. YOU have the possibility to find what works
> for you. Believe that, and never let go of that.
> > >
> > > Good luck, Stephen,
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 7/1/11, stephen_vandevijvere
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> > > From: stephen_vandevijvere <
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> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: testing question
> > > To:
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> > > Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:05 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > One therapist told me:
> > >
> > > Some Italian internist Dr. found out by
> accident (by looking into the scans of his wife and later
> comparing these with MS-patients) and many MS-patients seem
> to have a problem with the blood flow between head and rest
> of body, so the veins in the neck (V. Jugularis) should be
> at least opened for 0.8 centimeter,
> > >
> > > They can check that with a Doppler/sound
> test...
> > >
> > > The test is supposed to be harmless,
> although that may not be completely true, it's probably like
> 100 times safer than MRI,
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that this test is proof for
> MS, one Doctor I spoke on this he confirmed it may be useful
> to have a test done like this if you have MS-symptoms, but
> he said so far they're still investigating link MS and
> problems at the V. Jugularis...
> > >
> > > gr,
> > > Stephen.
> > >
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> > >> I was thinking of going to a Neuro. I
> will stand strong & not get an MRI. I would fry from it.
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> > >>
> > >> Are there alternative tests for MS?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Kathy
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