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BiBrun on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Caable-Modem-Dirty-Electricity-tp2466564p2474952.html
If nothing is plugged in and there is current on the ground wires,
you have a ground loop. You want to detect fractions of a milliamp,
which you can do with a sensitive magnetic pickup.
The old telephone listeners from Archer work well. The newer RadioShack
ones work but are noisy. Or get a tri-field meter from
the factory (Alpha Labs) and ask for the 100x external magnetic probe
and a 1x small probe. The 1x probe is ideal.
Another way, if you have a good way to measure the magnetic
field in the house, disconnect all the ground wires (with the power off
to be safe) at the panel and see if it improves. Then start putting
them back and find the problems on the ones that make it worse.
But at that point you'll need a small probe anyway.
You could try a clamp on ammeter but I don't know of any that are sensitive
enough.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM, emraware <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting discussion.
> How do you detect a ground loop?
> Can neutral to ground connections be detected with the electrical
> receptacle testers?
>
> --- In
[hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:
> >
> > I thought that since 2000 or so linear power supplies
> > are basically illegal (due to their poor efficency) to
> > sell with electronics.
> >
> > You're right that the Stetzer gets rid of differential mode only.
> > Question is why does the common mode convert back to
> > differential mode further away? Most likely because of
> > differences in capacitance to ground on the hot versus neutral.
> >
> > This doesn't surprise me, but it's also possible you have direct
> > neutral to ground connections somewhere (other than the
> > panel I mean... I suppose the signals could be bouncing back
> > at the panel which might also explain it?) This might be
> > worth finding and fixing. Easy to test at the panel if you can
> > remove the ground or neutral bus bar without getting ill
> > from the meter. Maybe better if you can find a young cheap
> > electrician to do it. You can also have them check for
> > connections between neutral wires.
> >
> > Or just open up every switch box that might have two circuits
> > live in it and separate the grounds (and the neutrals if they
> > are tied). You'd be surprised how removing a ground loop
> > can reduce the fields throughout the house.
> >
> > BIll
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:16 AM, jaime_schunkewitz <
> > jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I finally have clean electricity again, after
> > > replacing the Motorola cable modem (Model SB5101U)
> > > that Comcast provides. I'm using a Linksys
> > > CM100-T1. The Motorola pegged my Entech powerline
> > > noise analyzer (180 @ half sensitivity), while the
> > > Linksys adds nothing to the reading. It even comes
> > > with an analog 9v AC/DC power inverter.
> > >
> > > Here's an anecdote about using shunt capacitors as
> > > filters. One capacitor brought the reading from 180
> > > to single digits when plugged in and measured at the
> > > same receptacle as the modem. However, at other
> > > receptacles in the house I still measured the same
> > > elevated readings. And the capacitor had no effect
> > > on reducing the levels of AM radio noise.
> > >
> > > These so called filters appear to short out the higher
> > > frequencies and quench differential noise at the
> > > receptacle, however seem to push the noise elsewhere.
> > > Just an observation.
> > >
> > > Eli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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