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> Imo Dietrich Grün (and others) are correct regards the unmeasurable Tesla/scalar/longitudinal waves. It's a fact that what we measure with emf-meters is not the harmful part of emf.
>
> The theory of Tesla/scalar/longitudinal waves explains WHY:
>
> -some people (me included) are so sensitive to some emf, they feel the emf even when the measurable part of emf is so low you can not measure the source of emf...
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> -faraday cages and shielding never are as good as it seems on the emf-meter, most feel worse, some feel a tad better there for a short period of time, probably because the shielding does change some of the properties of the signal which may even result into more harmful emf, but sometimes any change can be a good thing, even if it's actually worse emf-wise...
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> -homeopathy, energy-healing, electro-accupuncture,...
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> -we can feel things like crystal stones
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> -emf gadgets do something and it's not imagination we can actually feel them! (bioprotect card, quantum,...)
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> -energizing water with words/music (Emoto), vorticising (Schauberger),...
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> -earth radiation
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> -...
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> Anything that actually matters in this crazy world (good and bad stuff) is vibrating via Tesla/scalar/longitudinal waves, unfortunately so far these waves seem unmeasurable with conventional tools!
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> I suppose as long as we can not measure these waves there still is some mystery to life?!
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> Anyway there are a lot of things we can not explain with old-school-science... Time for scientists to wake up and have an open mind and not be afraid of doing research from another perspective than Newton's...
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> Stephen.
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> --- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@> wrote:
> >
> > Drasko, please include me in your discussions on the theory on
> > this.  I should say there is one person with EHS who advocates shielding.
> > That is Bruce in AZ.  He is extremely sensitive, and he's
> > an electrical engineer... after he realized he was EHS he got training
> > from one of the founders of one of the major faraday cage manufacturers.
> > Also, he starts in a fairly remote area.
> >
> > So I think before we dismiss a Faraday cage solution in general we
> > need to do measurements in such cages.  If there is a resonance and the
> > shielding / grounding isn't good enough the field can become worse at some
> > frequencies.  Also, the natural background "noise" can be shielded, so the
> > resonance may appear worse relative to that.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:27 AM, kikkie2004 <kirsty.weight@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Drasko
> > >
> > > Have you tried the Bioprotect card then?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Kikkie
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Drasko"
> > > <cvijovic@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > > Have I mentioned some months ago I was very happy with my LaVita gypsum
> > > protection boards, and that they don't make a weird feeling known from metal
> > > Faraday cages?! Well, I was wrong!!!
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, here underground where I have just partial shielding (at the
> > > ceiling) LaVita really behaved much better than aluminum plates (I had had
> > > to remove them some years ago)...
> > > > But encouraged by that success of some months ago, meanwhile I made a
> > > complete room at another place... It is difficult to explain the night(mare)
> > > spent in there! I spent another night with the same result - it could be
> > > compared only to some psychoactive drug intake... Would I prefer to sleep
> > > near a mobile phone mast or there in the cage - a very difficult choice!
> > > >
> > > > So I searched the net and consulted some people including Andrew from
> > > this Group - to find out the amazing uniformity in findings... Dr. Gruen who
> > > participated at this Group also has similar observations, the following is
> > > an excerpt from the site that sells his Bioprotect(www.golden-ray.com):
> > > >
> > > > ..."If one takes a water sample and puts it into a Faraday cage – for
> > > example, a small bottle filled with water and completely wrapped in with
> > > some aluminum foil – and exposes it to the radiation of a mobile phone or
> > > some or other source of electromagnetic smog, then this water will
> > > significantly change its bioenergetical quality. In fact, it will change its
> > > quality much more than without the Faraday cage"...
> > > >
> > > > All that has both practical and theoretical implications. Regarding
> > > practical, Marc and many of you would agree that the solution is not in
> > > measuring and mitigating fields, but in "less conventional" means...
> > > > But theory concerns me as well... So I assembled this call below and I am
> > > starting by forwarding it to this Group. I would appreciate any responses!
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Drasko
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > There is a rather widely accepted opinion that Electrosensitive people
> > > don't tolerate conductive plate shieldings, of a Faraday cage type.
> > > Moreover, consent regarding that is more present than regarding toleration
> > > against different radiation sources.
> > > >
> > > > Such a statement is apparently an absurd as Electrosensitivity should
> > > have been sensitivity to electromagnetic fields, and the fields are at least
> > > partially mitigated by Faraday cages. (Practically, cage nullifies electric,
> > > radio and microwave radiation, while magnetic aspect isn't screened but at
> > > most cases magnetic readings keep within limits that are considered
> > > "usual".)
> > > >
> > > > Currently we are attempting to collect a work group of researchers and
> > > Electrosensitive persons interested in clarification of the issue, whatever
> > > the outcome they are advocating might have been.
> > > >
> > > > We would appreciate your participation. Please contact Drasko Cvijovic at
> > > cvijovic@ would you be interested in preliminary consultations.
> > > >
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