Re: Tent/grounding (was Re: more questions than answers)

Posted by Emil at Less EMF Inc on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/more-questions-than-answers-tp1586522p1665415.html

I think the problem is bringing the laptop into the tent.
What are your readings inside the tent with no electronics inside?
Of course, a strong MAGNETIC field outside and nearby the tent is not a good
idea either.

Emil
----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: [eSens] Tent/grounding (was Re: more questions than answers)


> In the meantime I've installed my tent.
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> My "feeling" in the tent was confirmed by my measurements later,
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> When in sleeping bag I'm not grounded. When I'm on the bottom of the tent
> I'm partially grounded.
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> I tested voltage each time with holding my laptop (on electric grid) in
> left hand, measuring me at the same time with a grounded bio-voltmeter. I
> was wearing cotton clothes but barefeet.
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> Approximately 3-4 Volts:
> -inside house
> -laying on sleeping bag (polyester) only in tent
> -laying on mattress only in tent
> -laying on duvet only in tent
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> Approximately 0.4-0.8 Volts:
> -laying directly on bottom of tent (bottom tent made of nylon)
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> Approximately 0.1-0.2 Volts:
> -barefeet directly on soil
> -touching soil with one finger
> -touching grounding rod
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> So...
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> Sleeping directly on the bottom of the tent is the way to go if you want
> to have some grounding-advantage of sleeping in a tent... Must say that's
> quite uncomfortable and coldish!
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> Could be different results for different materials. But with the sleeping
> bag or mattress I have here it seems useless to sleep in a tent for
> grounding purposes.
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> I could sleep grounded in a tent with my sleeping bag if I would be linked
> with a grounding rod. But I (can) do that already when sleeping in my
> bedroom. Advantage of the grounding rod when sleeping in a tent is that it
> doesn't have to be very long (2 inches could be enough already), which is
> better I suppose (a very short grounding rod not receiving a lot of emf
> like an antenna)...
>
> Stephen.
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> --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere"
> <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote:
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>> Regards grounding, you would think sleeping in a tent is really good...
>>
>> I'm wondering how much of the earth energy (electrons) would be blocked
>> by the bottom of the tent + sleeping bag...
>>
>> Stephen.
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>> --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere"
>> <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm also focusing more on grounding since 4 days, different activities:
>> > barefoot walking in forest
>> > sitting with barefeet in mud
>> > grounded cable attach to body
>> >
>> > It's kinda early to talk about results, but at first it seems like I
>> > benefit from it too.
>> >
>> > Sue also had very good results with sleeping grounded... And Diane in
>> > the past too with walking barefoot in forest and in river.
>> >
>> > Stephen.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >   I know that grounding works for me, but so far it has only very
>> > > limited effect. And I really wouldn't know what I can do more in that
>> > > area, as all special grounding devices are made for the
>> > > North-American
>> > > market. They don't work in Australia.:-(
>> > >
>> > > Rixta
>> > > > Hi Rixta,
>> > > >
>> > > > Sounds like you grounded yourself.
>> > > > Two thoughts here:
>> > > > 1- grounding is not the same as shielding, as you are still exposed
>> > > > to
>> > > > whatever you were exposed to in the beginning. It also gives no
>> > > > clue about
>> > > > what caused the symptoms.
>> > > > 2- if grounding helped your symptoms, maybe you should pursue
>> > > > grounding as
>> > > > your remedy, why argue with what works?
>> > > >
>> > > > Emil
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Rixta Francis"<rixta.francis@>
>> > > > To:<[hidden email]>
>> > > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:06 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] more questions than answers
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>   I made a simple ankle band from metal chain, connected that to
>> > > >> basic
>> > > >> electrical wire and got the wire outside into the ground. After
>> > > >> getting
>> > > >> worse and worse for a long time within a few days I started to
>> > > >> feel
>> > > >> considerably better. The change was way too significant to be
>> > > >> attributed
>> > > >> to imagination or psychological effects.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Rixta
>> > > >>> Need more information:
>> > > >>> What simple measures proved that you were right?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Emil
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >>> From: "Rixta Francis"<rixta.francis@>
>> > > >>> To:<[hidden email]>
>> > > >>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:00 PM
>> > > >>> Subject: [eSens] more questions than answers
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>    Earlier this year I diagnosed myself with EMS and some simple
>> > > >>>> measures
>> > > >>>> I took had effect, which to me proved that I was right. But to
>> > > >>>> know
>> > > >>>> better what to do I bought a Gauss meter and to my big surprise
>> > > >>>> the EMF
>> > > >>>> levels inside the house are very low, at most places less than
>> > > >>>> 0.5 mG.
>> > > >>>> Only the fridge and microwave give much higher readings, but I
>> > > >>>> don't
>> > > >>>> spend half days stuck to the fridge.
>> > > >>>> So what should I do with this information? I'm still convinced I
>> > > >>>> have
>> > > >>>> EMS. Maybe the low readings are still too high for me because I
>> > > >>>> also
>> > > >>>> have ME/CFS? Unfortunately I can't compare it with my old living
>> > > >>>> environment.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Anyone any ideas, tips, suggestions, information? I'm quite
>> > > >>>> confused.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Regards,
>> > > >>>> Rixta
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