Posted by Jomega on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Traveller-s-protection-from-Pulsing-Microwaves-with-Naturell-tp1554645p1554698.html

Hi emraware

 

Thanks so much for all this very useful info.

 

I have emailed the store about shipping the Tulle 60” to the UK (can’t find
a supplier over here).

It’s so helpful to have your feedback about resistance to DECT etc from
personal experience. There’s nothing on the site (that I’ve found) about
actual performance figures, etc., which makes it very confusing/ uncertain.

 

Do you feel that nearby mast transmissions simply don’t go through the walls
then? I guess that depends on the walls and how near the mast is. Yes, I
think some form of self-supporting mosquito net arrangement might be best as
a) it’s predictable to set up and b) it can completely surround you. Do you
think that it should be completely enclosed, faraday style? And would you
have the bottom of it under or on top of the mattress?

 

AH, I get you’re point about getting hot in a sleeping bag, especially asI
like very cool air at night!

 

Interesting about waves ‘getting through’ and then bouncing around inside! I
don’t think I would be too near sources, but then what’s too near? If aDECT
base is in the same house – say another room below, that seems pretty near
to me!

 

Also, I agree about scouting the hotel if you can first, I do that with my
MW1 Electrosmog Detector to get to know least saturated areas, but I’d love
to have meter that really measures down to the levels I know already affect
me.

There’s to be a replacement for my MW1 (currently down to 0.02v/m aprrox
with foil patch) that’s supposed to go down to 0.01v/m, but I’m sure that
even that’s not enough and suspect ten times more sensitivity is required–
do you know a good meter that goes down to 0.001v/m (0.0025 µW/m2 ??), plus
up to 10Ghz, since they often go to less than 3Ghz, which I believe would
not pick up our WiMax networks now(?)  

I couldn’t find a ‘Cornet’ meter at lessemf :( - is that very sensitive?

 

Many thanks again

John

 

 

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
emraware
Sent: 25 June 2010 03:44
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Traveller's protection from Pulsing Microwaves (with
Naturell?)

 

 

Hi John

I can relate to your situation, since I have had to travel a lot for
work. I have tried Naturell before. In my opinion, it was not
protective enough for my needs for cordless phones/cell towers-- they
leaked thru according to the electrosmog detector. I would instead
recommend a stronger dB protection factor. I personally prefer Tulle 60
dB fabric from http://store.fine-silver-productsnet.com (from
shieldextrading.net), based in the US though. (The clothes from this
store, however, weren't strong enough in dB factor, the DECT cordless
radiation also went through it. I had someone sew something out of
Tulle fabric instead.) BTW, If you get Tulle, make sure to confirm
it's 5 feet, because they gave me 4 foot once.

If the radiation is solely external, I have had much success by just
pinning the Tulle cloth to the window curtain using plastic hanger
clips, which I can set up in < 5 minutes. However, you should get as
much of the window as you can-- no leaks... If the radiation, however,
is both internal & external, I need to make sure the hotel room has 4
places I can hook the cloth onto, or use tape. Sometimes I move around
lamps/chairs around to hook onto, if necessary. I suppose you could
make a mosquito net out of it...

I agree with Andrew that tent is preferred over sleeping bag. As a
sleeping bag, it can get pretty hot, as the cloth is also thermally
reflective, and the radiation in the air might also contribute to it.
I do, however, think wearing the cloth is okay. I wear a vest
sandwiched between 2 cotton shirts on a day-to-day basis, and when I
drive alone, drape the cloth over my head. It's slightly transparent...
The thermal qualities make it bearable both in summer and winter.

***Note the cloth is mainly helpful for low radiation (cordless phones,
cell towers, and distant cell phones). However, nearby cell phones
could make things worse if their radiation penetrates through and
bounces around. inside.

More suggestions:
(1) Try taking a multi-vitamin during travel.
(2) Choose your hotel. Ask about Cordless/Wi-Fi in advance. Check cell
tower maps like cellreception.com/antennasearch.com (UK probably has
something similar)
(3) If you have the opportunity/time to book on the spot, bring a meter
to check the hotel's outside and inside. If not too bad, find the best
floor using a meter like the Cornet meter (from lessemf.com), and use it
to give location preferences (e.g., lower floor) when checking in.

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> > enough to
> > be progressively disabled (start to get pains, lose balance, heart
> > problems)
> > by next door's old DECT (now, been replaced by an Orchid!) and
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> > it may
> > not be so easy to escape at night.
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