Posted by Christina Steils on
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Hi, John
Can you put your findings and experiences on this site below as many otherswould find this useful.
Cheers
Giles
http://www.es-uk.info/forums/index.asp


--- On Sat, 29/5/10, John Jamieson <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Cordless Phones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 29 May, 2010, 17:26















 
 



 


   
     
     
Hi Estelle



My sympathies with your phone plight!



First - I use Skype for all my calls, both incoming and outgoing - we have a

Skypein number that people on mobiles and landlines can call at the same

rate as normal landlines. It's a small monthly fee and includes free

landline calls to your own country. This leaves us free to choose between

headphones and speakers etc, the call quality is brilliant, and anyway, lots

of our friends are getting on Skype. It's the way to go! Every call is

recorded (handy) and my entire contact list is available with a click, and

it's always on even when I go away to someone else's house, I just log on as

me.



Second - we CANNOT use our corded landline phones at all!!! It varies, but

we get similar aches and pains to using a mobile phone, can you believe it?

Not quite so bad, but still bad! It happens on most/all corded landline

phones we try. I think the long wires to the exchange pick up stray stuff

and deliver them to your ear (or ADSL signals get through the filter?) When

I rarely use my home phone line I use an old FM Cordless (with the sticky

out antenna!) I got to say it works a TREAT!!! Again, you can find them on

ebay from time to time - I guess search FM CORDLESS PHONE, or car boot

sales, or WANTED on freecycle etc.



What I can tell you is DECT is a no-no for us! Actually a

nooooooooooooooooo-nooooooooooooooooooo !!! And not just the handset when on

a call - but the continuous base station emissions. Output from DECT base is

"twice that from a mobile phone mast":



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-376279/Cordless-home-phones-sparks

-radiation-fear.html



Our neighbour has a DECT phone (ours is a semi-detached house) and when they

turn it on it completely disables us - after several hours we can't

function, think, walk straight and it's painful. As we both work from home

it's impossible. We bought them an 'Orchid' phone (www.lowradiation.co.uk

<http://www.lowradiation.co.uk/> ) so they can have their DECT but with the

Orchid that terrible DECT Base Station is not transmitting 24/7 - only when

on a call and only at the power needed to connect, not full power. That

works fine for us and luckily they were ok to do it. Don't think Orchid is

available in US, nor any equivalent, if it was me, I would find a way to

adapt it! (only for a neighbour - we would never use one!)



In the UK there is a further complication. Our largest ISP is BT and they

supply a free BT Home Hub to every broadband customer. What they don't tell

them is that it has a DECT base station in it - whether you use it or not (a

DECT handset only comes free with their top rate "Total Broadband", so very

few actually use the DECT function - but it always on anyway). Now: if you

disable Telephony in the hub's software, the DECT stays ON! Eeeek! And it's

a particularly powerful one. Why would they do that? It was a mystery to me

until I discovered that they are creating in effect another mobile phone

network, so one user can take their DECT handset with them wherever they go

and piggy back off others' Home Hubs without them ever even realising it.



And this is why they are so powerful - it's crafty and sneaky - BT are

sneakily getting their own secondary mobile network by putting a phone mast

INSIDE everyone's home without them even realising it, or being able to

disable it (short of chucking it in the bin and getting a proper router -

preferably wired not WiFi).



And the extra tragedy is that it means that most homes now have TWO DECT

base stations - their landline one and the hidden BT Home Hub one - awful!

I've met many ordinary people whose lives/health have been transformed just

by this essential knowledge!



And now our next door neighbour just got BT and their Home Hub too - it

totally floored us within hours - and they wanted to actually use the hub's

DECT handset too. The only way we could get them back onto using our Orchid

phones was to promise to move - which we ARE now doing - to a detached house

somewhere well away from pulsed microwaves! Can't wait - we still are having

to endure their Wifi - about 10-20% as bad as the DECT but still there.



I should say that the level of DECT signals is quite low in our house: our

MW1 Electrosmog Detector - modified with foil to make it sensitive right

down to about 0.01V/metre can only just pick it up at the party wall - yet

its effect pervades the whole house, so we have shown that it's not been

manufactured with enough sensitivity. It can't pick up the WiFi anywhere in

our house - but it still affects us. I believe we are all getting more

sensitive as we go along, and the metres are having to keep up!



One last thing - people say don't use a mobile in a car, because it's like a

microwave oven - well the same applies to our house!!! It's brand new and

fully lined with this aluminum foil backed insulation panels, even the roof

- so next door's microwaves have nowhere to go - they keep bouncing around

until they find a window, probably. Maybe this is why it affects us so

badly?



Take care



Spread the word :-)



John



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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of

[hidden email]

Sent: 27 May 2010 05:46

To: [hidden email]

Subject: [eSens] Cordless Phones



Hello,



I had a wonderful cordless phone that is nine years old. Never bothered

me at all. The phone finally died and I had to get a new one. Well, I am

so terribly sensitive to the new phone. Even if I hold it for just a few

minutes I feel electrified. Horrible.

I tried to contact Panasonic, the company that made my old phone to see if

I could get that very phone again. Nope, their not making it any longer...



Does anyone have a suggestion for a cordless phone that may not bother me?



Thanks,



Estelle



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