>
> The strongest energy is coming by line of sight. So if your
> house were glass, would you see the tower through the wall
> or the ceiling? Probably the wall. Focus on parts of the wall
> where you'd be able to see the tower, or almost able to see it.
> If you have a directional detector, look at where you get the strongest
> readings when pointed to the wall or to the tower.
> (m/W^2 is not right, it should be mW/cm^2 or mW/m^2, and
> they differ by 10000, or W/m^2 ).
>
> The ceiling will help but only if you do a good job on the wall
> and their are no penetrations (light fixtures, electrical outlets,
> etc.). Save the ceiling for last and see if the directional meter
> says it's coming mostly from the very top of the wall. Beware
> that wiring in the ceiling that comes down to a fixture will
> be a significant source of leakage through the ceiling if you
> do the ceiling.
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:33 AM, edomor2 <edo@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > No cats here, so that's not a concern. Have thought of hemming a metal bar
> > against the bottom of the Veilshield so that it lies flat against the window
> > frame.
> >
> > We're getting readings outside between 1.5 m/W2 to 4 m/W2; inside the
> > house, the bottom floor ranges from 0.5 m/W2 to 12 m/W2, and the top floor
> > ranges from 2 m/W2 to 21 m/W2. There seem to be hot spots.
> >
> > In the adjacent studio where we work, a larger building and in front ofthe
> > bedroom in relation to the antenna, we're getting on avg 8-14 mW2 downstairs
> > and 20-60 m/W2 upstairs.
> >
> > The antenna is above us in elevation, 650 meters away. Since the readings
> > are so much higher upstairs, I'm guessing Yshield on the ceilings will help
> > a lot.
> >
> > I don't think our outer wall is conductive at all (We're painting on the
> > inside). We're shielding just the bedroom first and will see how that goes
> > with YShield/Veilshield. We're taking readings with a 3-axis RF meter.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Edo
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Bill Bruno
> > <wbruno@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have used veil shield. It works well. If you have cats, they may
> > > destroy it. Also my wife didn't like the look unless it was stretched
> > > very flat. This can be achieved by taping to the glass, but that
> > > makes it hard to connect with the frame. You probably will get
> > > your 99 percent but if there is a tower close by you should aim
> > > for much better. If the outer wall is at all conductive then oversided
> > > metal screens outside will be a big help. Also, having a good detector
> > will
> > > help a lot.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:54 PM, edomor2 <edo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Bill,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your thoughts on the shielding. Not sure if I understand
> > this
> > > > about the AM radio. what needs to be solved exactly and what would be
> > > > buzzing after we paint?
> > > >
> > > > We're considering the VeilShield product sold at lessemf for the
> > windows,
> > > > maybe with some small magnets adhered to the window moulding to keep
> > the
> > > > mesh basically in place. We're not looking for 99.999 -- 99 is good
> > enough.
> > > > This mesh is a polyester material coated with a nickel-blackened copper
> > > > finish. Virtually see through and unnoticeable from a distance.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Edo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, Bill Bruno
> >
> > > > <wbruno@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Another thing about shielding... first check with an AM radio to see
> > if
> > > > > there are any buzzes near where you are going to shield. Solve those
> > > > first
> > > > > or you will have the whole area buzzing.
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Bill Bruno <wbruno@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think the paint has good properties, but it is true that
> > > > > > removing it is a problem. Make sure you fill any cracks
> > > > > > so you get a single conductive surface over the whole area.
> > > > > > Leave some exposed someplace where you can install a
> > > > > > dedicated ground rod; meanwhile ground it to your pipes
> > > > > > or electric... and make sure you can experiment with grounded
> > > > > > vs. non-grounded (don't paint close to anything that might
> > > > > > create a shock hazard).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The most cost efficient thing for windows is aluminum insect
> > > > > > screen. You either need to bond it electrically with the paint,
> > > > > > or have an overlap of several inches. You will see the levels
> > > > > > improve maybe 99% reduction without overlap, but if the
> > > > > > levels are bad you want to shoot for much better, like 99.99%.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't paint another color over the y-shield until your readings
> > > > > > are low enough... you may need to add a second coat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know someone who used very fine stainless steel mesh on his
> > windows.
> > > > The
> > > > > > films really are not as good, and bonding to the
> > > > > > paint with film may not work (you have to bond it all the way
> > > > > > around). There's a place in Berkeley, TWPinc.com that sells all
> > kinds
> > > > of
> > > > > > mesh, including copper and bronze...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > B
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:49 AM, ada iye <betty_starbuckle@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Don't quote me on this but I read somewhere that using shielding
> > > > paints
> > > > > >> can infact intensify the signals in your room and make things
> > worse.
> > > > The
> > > > > >> idea being that It can create a faraday cage with Emf signals
> > trapped
> > > > and
> > > > > >> bouncing around inside. The fact that the paint is then not able
> > to
> > > > > >> be removed is also a negating factor in my opinion.. Maybe some
> > one
> > > > > >> else will verify this, but for me this has always been my sticking
> > > > > >> point with regards to using the paints.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> A
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --- On Wed, 14/4/10, edomor2 <edo@ <edo%40momoglass.com>>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> From: edomor2 <edo@ <edo%40momoglass.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > >> Subject: [eSens] Help! Shielding house with Yshield paint, etc.
> > > > > >> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> >
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > > >> Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 1:29
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Everyone,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We're 600 meters from a strong cell phone tower and the readings
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > >> house are not good.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We're about to take the first steps towards shielding, beginning
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > >> bedroom. After some research we've decided on using the Yshield
> > carbon
> > > > > >> graphite paint for the walls, but are still undecided on what to
> > do
> > > > > >> regarding windows.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Has anyone had any experience with Scotchtint, a film that is
> > adhered
> > > > to
> > > > > >> the glass (sold by lessemf.com) ? All of this stuff is so pricey,
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > >> don't want to throw our money away with things that won't work.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Also, any info/experience you have with the Yshield paint or with
> > > > other
> > > > > >> window alternatives (like Pilkington glass or fabrics) would be
> > > > helpful as
> > > > > >> well.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks for taking the time to read this,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Edo
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