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> I've gotta get off line and make dinner.  I don't have any more specific info than the info Snoshoe sent here, most likely--I mean I can send you my search materials--about 100 medical research sites to read--I don't keep more than notes tho as to specifics.  You would have to sift thru it yourself--do you want the sites?  No problem, but I can't send today; will try to soon.  The sites will not have specifics for microwaves; the sites explain how ion channels and tjs work.  Unfortunately, I have not found specific to ES info like that.  It makes sense, tho, that ion channels are affected by microwaves.  And that is how/why I got interested in this subject.
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> Btw, Bill Bruno--I was the one who mentioned the tj permeability gene, discovered by Marios Hadjivassilious of the UK, 2006ish.  You want the name of the gene?  Don't have it but could probably find it.  Again, not today. 
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> Bye for now,
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> Subject: [eSens] Re: Neurotransmitters/dopamine etc.
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> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:07 PM
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> Hi Evie
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> Have you got any references about the calcium flux in and out of cells? Ithought ion channels would be affected somehow, but
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> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
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> > Hi, Snoshoe,
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> > Sorry to read in your previous posts how bad you have been feeling lately.  We would never know it had you not said; your (re)searches  are impeccable.  :)  You are a fount of great info!  ;) 
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> > I was just discussing this with Stephen here earlier today:
> > "6. Exposure to microwaves and other EMFs is known to abnormally affectcalcium flux into and out of cells. This is also an abnormality found in people with CFS/ME."
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> > So, Stephen!  Here is a good website to read on that subject!  And it is put much better than I could explain, I am sure.
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> > Take care, Snoshoe; I so appreciate your great ability to ferret info (and I too regularly lose track of my websites, so I can relate to your frustration  lol),
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> > Subject: [eSens] Neurotransmitters/ dopamine etc.
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> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:34 PM
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> > Microwaves in regular people increase certain neurotransmitters in a way similar to people doing cocaine. That's why you find so many people literally addicted to the gadgets. They truly are experiencing "drug" withdrawalsymptoms when they can't have their regular "fix" from their radiation, and start getting a little nuts.
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> > It really doesn't matter whether the source is from an electrical, or chemical reaction, things with the "right" frequencies will cause the same effects in the body. Unfortunately for us, choosing to avoid the electrical is increasingly difficult, so finding the mitigators to said frequencies, ie, extra supplements to repair weak areas, and replace ionized out elements, along with reducing exposure will become ever increasingly important.
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> > Par for the course for me, I lost a page I was sure I'd just saved, just a while ago, connecting interactions of I think dopamine, and MAO. It wasinteresting, the MAO B connection, since that plays into migraines as well. Here's the MAO part:
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> > "Generally, Monoamine Oxidase A (MAOA) prefers to metabolize norepinephrine (NE), serotonin (5-HT), and Dopamine (DA) (and other less clinically relevant chemicals). Monoamine Oxidase B, on the other hand, prefers to metabolize Dopamine (DA) (and other less clinically relevant chemicals).The differences between the substrate selectivity of the two enzymes are utilized clinically when treating specific disorders: Monoamine Oxidase A inhibitorshave been used in the treatment of depression, and Monoamine Oxidase B inhibitors are used in the treatment of Parkinson's Disease." http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Monoamine_ oxidase_B
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> > http://www.utexas. edu/research/ asrec/demoasrec. html Here's a quick little example on neurotransmitters.
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> > http://www.drugabus e.gov/NIDA_ notes/NNvol21N4/ Impacts.html -more detailed
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> > testing dopamine levels, and natural enhancement - http://www.integrat ivepsychiatry. net/dopamine. html
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> > On this next one, I'd like to know how they think the "microwaves are 'non-thermally' affecting", since it is heating things up and increasing vibration rates. Although the body does try to convert microwave into infrared, 'maybe' the heat is decreased by the time it hits these items, or the electrical effect happens so quickly, the heat hasn't hit yet?
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> > ... "Reports of headache are consistent with the fact that microwaves non-thermally affect the dopamine-opiate system of the brain and increase the permeability of the blood-brain barrier. The reports of sleep disruption,on the other hand, are consistent with the effect of the radiation on rapid eye movement (REM) sleep and on melatonin levels, while memory impairmentis consistent with the finding that microwave radiation targets the hippocampus.
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> > U of Toronto ... heightened probability of cracking up your car persists for up to 15 minutes after completing a cellphone call"....
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> > 5. Microwaves have been shown in studies to induce Oxidative Damage leading to a decrease in Super Oxide Dimutase (SOD), catalase, glutathione, CoQ10 along with evidence of increased byproducts of oxidative stress to cellmembranes, MDA. Oxidative damage has been found to be a major factor in CFS and people with CFS consistently found to be depleted in the above body'snatural antioxidents.
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> > 6. Exposure to microwaves and other EMFs is known to abnormally affect calcium flux into and out of cells. This is also an abnormality found in people with CFS/ME.
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> > 16. Dopamine levels are also known to be affected by microwave radiation exposure. PWC have been found to often have low levels of dopamine with decreased dopamine being linked to depression, a symptoms also found in PWC.
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> > 17. Decreases in the hormone Acetylcholine - known to be induced by exposure to EMR - is an abnormality also found in CFS/ME.
> > (Now here we are back to nicotine, which binds into the acetylcholine receptors, which I mentioned earlier, made me think we could use more of that, -ac, not nicotine, lol- but perhaps nicotine binding there helps reduce or stop some of the emf from acting on that part of the system as rapidly. Perhaps emfs act on acetylcholine in the system in a slower way than say being exposed to certain nerve gases, which in toxic amounts besides seizuring can kill ya quick, they eat up the ac. )
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