Stephen.
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> Here is some manganese info from orthomolecular point of view.
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> Summary - Manganese
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> Although often ignored by nutrition conscious individuals, Mn is an essential trace metal frequently deficient in our diet. A component of at least six known enzymes, Mn is required for efficient sugar metabolism, for the production of cartilage
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> a vital structural component of our bodies, and for the manufacture of cyclic AMP
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> a cellular second messenger.
> We know that Mn deficient animals suffer impaired growth, reproductive problems, and a shortened life span. With a severe deficiency, animals cannotstand up because of defective cartilage formation. Humans with low Mn levels can suffer chronic joint pains, particularly in the knees and back. âGrowing painsâ often disappear when our young patients take adequate Mn with zinc along with their vitamins. And, since the discs between the vertebrae consist largely of cartilage, wide-spread Mn deficiency might be responsible for the high incidence of back problems in the developed,more carnivorous, world.
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> In addition, low Mn levels have been associated with epilepsy and schizophrenia. Studies dating back to 1929 indicate that schizophrenics improve with supplementary Mn and our experience with Mn deficient schizophrenics at the Brain Bio Center supports this. We have also discovered that Mn deficient patients may suffer depression which clears up when Mn is included in the treatment program. Seizure patients may respond dramatically to Mn. Deficiency may lead to autoimmune diseases.
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> We find that patients with either hypoglycemia or diabetes need extra Mn to help normalize blood sugar levels. This isnât surprising since in Mn deficient animals, the insulin secreting cells of the pancreas atrophy- and insulin is the bodyâs crucial regulator of sugar metabolism.Interestingly, low levels of this trace metal during early development maylead to malformation of the earâs vestibular system, the earâs mechanism responsible for maintaining balance. Young children who are slow to walk may require Mn supplements.
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> Unfortunately, most diets, even the best planned, tend to be deficient inthis important trace metal. Our Mn deficient farmlands often produce fruits and vegeta-Zinc and Manganese in the Schizophrenias
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> bles lacking adequate levels. And, many of our frequently eaten foods contain little Mn. For example, meat, even liver, provides little Mn. Foods rich in Mn include nuts, whole grains, spices, legumes, and tea leaves. Tropical fruits such as pineapple, banana, papaya, and mango are particularly good sources. However, patients with low Mn blood or hair Mn levels will needsupplementary Mn in addition to a good diet. Fortunately, Mn is well tolerated, even at high doses (up to 300 mg/day). However, occasionally in patients over forty, Mn can raise blood pressure and produce tension headaches. If this occurs, the Mn dose should be stopped until the blood pressure normalizes and the headaches disappear. Dried or fresh tropical fruits and tea can then be used as a source of Mn. "
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http://www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1999/articles/1999-v14n01-p028.shtml>
> cindi
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> From: Evie
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams)
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> Hi, Stephen,
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> Well, because you are now taking a supplement for manganese, and the liver probably filters out a good bit of your supplementation, it sounds likethat is making its way into your urine (and certainly more manganese is inyour bloodstream!) While, by hair analysis, you show the previous manganese deficiency. It sounds consistent with what should be going on, I think, unless you had these tests all prior to taking the manganese supplement. Youshould be able to get a new hair sample from near the root in a month or 2of starting supplementation which will show you now have ample manganese. That is why, tho, you should consided repacking your manganese in smaller amounts. Most manganese supplements contain too much to take on an on-going basis. You could also begin taking them once or twice a week, but then you might not see the help with ES that you do now.
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> Good luck; let me know how it goes. You are the only other ESSER I knowtaking manganese right now. I take a holiday every few weeks from it, btw,to ensure I am not getting toxic.
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> My best,
> Diane
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> --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_
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