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http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112.htmlGreetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
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www.milieuziektes.be
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From: "Loni" <
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Reactions!
Charles,
Well I read this twice & am more confused I think.
There is a lot of *dirt* in the mains electricity net, and besides the 50 or
60 Hz, there are alot of other frequencies, which we call *dirty power*.
That is VLF, mainly frequencies from ca. 1.25 kHz up to 150 kHz (the blank
space between Norm EN50160 and EN 55011/55022) , but they may go up to 400
So VLF is dirty electricity? I really don't know what all these measurements
mean at all.
Thanks for the info Charles! Loni
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From: charles <
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Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Reactions!
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Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 10:39 AM
For more explanations see:
http://www.milieuzi ektes.nl/ Pagina112. html
In general we speak about
low frequency electrical fiels
low frequency magnetic fields
high frequency electromagnetic fields.
In general we speak about low frequency up to ca. 1 MHz, and above that of
high frequency.
The real border lies between 30 and 100 kHz.
In the low frequency region, the electrical field is separated from the
magnetic field, and both must be measured separately.
In the high frequency field, the electrical field is *intertwinded* with the
magnetical field, so there it is sufficient to measure only the electrical
field; the magnetocal component can be calculated here.
The electrical network is supposed to deliver current of 220 Volt/50 Hertz,
or 110 Volt/60 Hertz.
But that is in theory.
kHz, and even higher as 5 MHz.
They are in the mains, coming from outside, from electrical appliances from
neighbours for instance, or they come from your own appliances, like
computers, lamps, televisions, etc.
So the dirty power can come from the mains, and appliances can put dirty
power back into the mains. It can be treated (partly) with certain filters.
First the souce must be eliminated, and the rest done with filters.
Apart from that, your applications may emit these VLF frequencies *into
space*, for which I named this *dirty air*.
Because it is in the free air, no filter can do here any good.
And in my view, the MODULATIONS, which are on most elektrosmog sources, do
range from 1 Hz up to 20 kHz, and do make the most damage to our bodies.
It is not so the high frequency carrier waves, but their digital information
they carry, which are all lowfrequency.
I even measured a strong 100 kHz frequency inside a 3G (UMTS) signal.
And normally 3 G signals do contain frequencies of 100 Hz, with multiple
harmonics, and 1.5 kHz, with multiple harmonics.
Hope this explains it a bit.
Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <marc@ufoseries. com>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Reactions!
> Marc, So RF is considered higher frequency than EMF? Loni
"EMF" is a generic term which includes most everything ("electromagnetic
fields"), while RF is a specific type of EMF (radio frequencies" ).
According to Wikipedia, RF includes everything from 3 KHz to 300 GHz,
which is quite a large range. But that does not include the frequency
of 100 volt AC power, which is at a much lower 60 hz.
So, cellphone towers are both EMF and RF.
The primary field in your electrical power lines are EMF, but not RF.
The noise that is riding along your electrical power lines
(and could be filtered out) contains RF.
Marc
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