Re: any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system

Posted by S.T. on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/any-feedback-at-all-on-mcscure-com-and-dynamic-neural-retraining-tp1550784p1550800.html

But also there are lot of us who had nothing changed by NAET except the weight our our wallets. Over 40 NAET treatments did nothing for me. It just irked me that my NAET practitioner claimed that he will definitely help me without even truly listening to my symptoms. He is even big time well known in Toronto.
 
Just  a suggestion before you spend you money on NAET. If you go somewhere remote for three days and you feel much, much better that might mean that NAET is not the answer.
Good luck if you decide to go for it. I hope it helps.
 
Sandra

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From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system
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Oh that it the DVD's Paul was talking about. Sounds like something to look it to for sure.
Let us know what you find out!  Have you tried NAET? Some others on another site swear by this. ???? LOni

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:34 AM

 

Hi everyone
 
I still haven't had time to check out this site in detail - I had a quick 10 minute surf around it yesterday and it struck me as oddly similar io something which a man called Ashok Gupta is offering in the UK - admittedly as a treatment for ME/CFS  as opposed to MCS - I have had some email contactwith Mr Gupta who was also offering his treatment at a cost of £95.00 ona full refund if it doesn't work basis and he reckoned it would also work for ES. There is a lot in his premise which seems to be sound - his programme is based on the theory that a prt of the brain - the Amygdala - becomes overatice and on a heightened state of alert and that this needs to be reprogrammed to work normally. Look it up on You Tube and you can watch some ofhis video material for free. I certainly intend to maybe have a go at it when I get the chance. Look it up too on a site called healthspy where a guywho calls himself Black spy includes his programme in his section on
"treatments" - although he thinks the programme also needs to address nutrition and detoxification which I don't hink it does. Food for thought.
 
BW
 
Steph

--- On Wed, 28/10/09, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 20:43

 

I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one?

J.

--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM

 

Paul,

 

So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions?  I know I have some genetic disfunctions, what about that?  Loni

--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM

 

According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by

the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally

I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain,

whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big

question for me.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

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> Hi Loni

>

> I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very

> interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most

> plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems

> at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification

> - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see

> what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is

> an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to

> have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear

> that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I

> feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents

> house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your

> situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer

> ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the

> computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the

> computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is

> going on there???

>

> Best wishes

>

> Steph

>

> --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>

> wrote:

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> From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>

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> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural

> retraining system

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>

> Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02

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> I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not

> definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this &

> then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it

> also? Hmmm, save us $1,000.

>

> I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic

> environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to

> the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating.

>

> I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni

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> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote:

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> From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural

> retraining system

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM

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> Hi Paul,

>

> I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my

> life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck

> issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel

> http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student.

>

> After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand

> properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to

> use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free

> from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional

> scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL.

> My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up."

> Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises

> and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses.

>

> I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense

> to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental.

>

> I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to

> thinking it possible.

> I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is

> heavily quoted by Norman Doige too.

>

> There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work

> on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them

> comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or

> so I think.

>

> Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who

> were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of

> MCS. Mmm did I say at least...

>

> Sandra

>

> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote:

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> From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com>

> Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural

> retraining system

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com

> Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM

>

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> I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and

> give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone

> through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and

> i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly

> well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is

> she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so

> the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000

> and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the

> website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my

> issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health

> habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems

> to

> have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who

> has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to

> hear from you.

>

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