>
>
> What about books? Wasn't that what Annie did? Loni
>
> --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Wolf Man <[hidden email] <napanft%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Wolf Man <[hidden email] <napanft%40yahoo.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural
> retraining system
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 2:04 AM
>
>
>
>
> the problem is, how to watch any dvds whan you have emfsens, i can do it
> for 5 minutes and thats it
>
> --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural
> retraining system
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 10:17 PM
>
>
>
> I came across this 'amygdala retraining' program for $190 for a set of DVDs
>
> - it sounds similar to the 'dynamic neural retraining' that Annie is doing
> -
>
> mainlyl for CFS but also basic mechanism mentions CFS...
>
> http://www.guptapro gramme.com/ html/explainCFS. asp
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> >
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> >
>
> > I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one?
>
> >
>
> > J.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic
> neural
>
> > retraining system
>
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
>
> > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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> >
>
> > Paul,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya
>
> > debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if
> it
>
> > were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I
> have
>
> > some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni
>
> >
>
> > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com>
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic
> neural
>
> > retraining system
>
> >
>
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
>
> >
>
> > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced
> by
>
> >
>
> > the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too.
> Personnally
>
> >
>
> > I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain,
>
> >
>
> > whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the
>
> > big
>
> >
>
> > question for me.
>
> >
>
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
>
> > wrote:
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
>
> > > Hi Loni
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very
>
> >
>
> > > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most
>
> >
>
> > > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other
>
> > problems
>
> >
>
> > > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and
>
> > detoxification
>
> >
>
> > > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and
> see
>
> >
>
> > > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000
>
> > is
>
> >
>
> > > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel
>
> > to
>
> >
>
> > > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to
> hear
>
> >
>
> > > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At
> times
>
> > I
>
> >
>
> > > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my
>
> > parents
>
> >
>
> > > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your
>
> >
>
> > > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the
>
> > computer
>
> >
>
> > > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use
>
> > the
>
> >
>
> > > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use
> the
>
> >
>
> > > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What
> is
>
> >
>
> > > going on there???
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Best wishes
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Steph
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>
>
> >
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic
>
> > neural
>
> >
>
> > > retraining system
>
> >
>
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
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> >
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> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not
>
> >
>
> > > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this
> &
>
> >
>
> > > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it
>
> >
>
> > > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic
>
> >
>
> > > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go
> to
>
> >
>
> > > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni
>
> >
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> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com>
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic
>
> > neural
>
> >
>
> > > retraining system
>
> >
>
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Hi Paul,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of
>
> > my
>
> >
>
> > > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck
>
> >
>
> > > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel
>
> >
>
> > > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to
> stand
>
> >
>
> > > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain
> to
>
> >
>
> > > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am
> free
>
> >
>
> > > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and
> functional
>
> >
>
> > > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years.
>
> > LOL.
>
> >
>
> > > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up."
>
> >
>
> > > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did
>
> > exercises
>
> >
>
> > > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made
>
> > sense
>
> >
>
> > > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head
> to
>
> >
>
> > > thinking it possible.
>
> >
>
> > > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose
> work
>
> > is
>
> >
>
> > > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this
>
> > work
>
> >
>
> > > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of
> them
>
> >
>
> > > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around
>
> > them"...or
>
> >
>
> > > so I think.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others
>
> > who
>
> >
>
> > > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of
>
> >
>
> > > MCS. Mmm did I say at least...
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Sandra
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com>
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural
>
> >
>
> > > retraining system
>
> >
>
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com
>
> >
>
> > > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM
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> >
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> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com
>
> > and
>
> >
>
> > > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively
> gone
>
> >
>
> > > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself'
> and
>
> >
>
> > > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly
>
> >
>
> > > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem
>
> > is
>
> >
>
> > > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months,
> so
>
> >
>
> > > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend
> $1000
>
> >
>
> > > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on
> the
>
> >
>
> > > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain
> my
>
> >
>
> > > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any
>
> > health
>
> >
>
> > > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol
> seems
>
> >
>
> > > to
>
> >
>
> > > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone
> who
>
> >
>
> > > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like
> to
>
> >
>
> > > hear from you.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
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> > > --
>
> >
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> > > Paul Coffman
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> Paul Coffman
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