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> To diane and Kooky - kooky I have just quickly scanned your original postand you mention taking an aruvedic remedy - you need to be careful and check what is in it - I could be wrong on this but I read somewhere that they can be high in either metals or arsenic - As I say I could be wrong but themention of "aruvedic" is definitely ringing a cautionary bell with me.
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> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
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> Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 7:28 PM
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> I have been off-line for awhile and am just reading recent posts--probably out of order.  Sorry if someone has addressed this already.
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> I have similar problems as yours--skin burning, tingling, etc (esp touching things, not just on face, as most here have), is a major symptom I have.  I have it not just from ES, but also many chemicals, environmental, bacterial... . problems cause it, including glutens.  I do find that B12 helps me with this symptom (and the symptom itself may be a type of peripheral neuropathy, which is associated with diabetes and celiac disease, both of which I have.  This type of neuropathy is known to respond often to B12, and infact is usually caused by deficiency states caused by celiac d and diabetes.)  Interestingly, tho, another forum member (Steph) found onlinethat B12 excess can also CAUSE "vibrating"- -also a similar symptom which I have in the past had problems with, which responds to B12 supplementation- -and which is possibly also an associated neuropath ic symptom.  Thisis a common thing with nutrients--deficien cies and over-doses can have
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> symptomology.  The esp interesting thing was I found this to be true just recently when I tried a very high B12 supplement, prior to my father taking it.  (I wanted to be sure it had active ingredients and he was not just taking faux B12.)  It actually made my symptoms worse, temporarily! So, the moral here is, you have to experiment a bit to get your correct dose, or possibly B12 will contribute to your symptoms!  Remember if you try B12, you will need probably a higher dose initially and then you will need to taper this off, over time.  Now I take the B12 only when I have vibrating at night.  (I still do have skin burning sometimes when I touch something my immune system perceives as threatening.  After so long, this type of neuropathy can become somewhat permanent.  But B12 does help my es facial and skin burning and the burning which cell towers, etc, bring on.)
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> More to the point of this particular post--yes, the mixture you are taking to purify and cleanse the organs will make your symptoms much worse, temporarily.  You are probably detoxing much more than you are used to.  The detoxing also causes worse es symptoms as a whole.  But you will find amonth or so from now, you have much less skin burning and other symptoms, probably--at least, this is the way it works for me.  But this improvement (for me, at least) doesn't last long usually.  If you have built up toxins, you will possibly feel best taking this mixture on and off--take it awhile, take advantage of the good effects; then wait until you have return of symptoms and retake it again.
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> As to the rubber flip-flops.. ...  I too use rubber sole shoes--SOMETIMES.  This can be a help or a hinderance and it helps to know what you aredealing with.  If you have a tendency to be a person who takes on electric current, then the rubber shoes can sometimes help if you are in a high current place.  (But I don't necessarily have to be touching a surface to take on electricity, so in that case, the rubber shoes do not help; also itis not at all helpful in an atmosphere where you would be discharging current if you were barefoot.)  If I am using the rubber shoes, I also have need to use rubber gloves to handle particular things. 
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> Also it helps to go to a "clean" place in the forest to "off-load" your built-up electrical load.  Sitting on the ground there (when it is dry enough), or hugging a tree (when it is too wet to sit)--not joking here--can help you discharge built up energies.  You will want to leave the rubbershoes behind to do this.  It takes me about 40 to 45 mins to dischargeelectricity and if I am not feeling better within 20 mins or so, I look for another spot to "discharge".  Sometimes, even deep in the forest, there are places of high ground currents and you will take on, instead of leave behind, electricity in these places. 
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> --- On Tue, 5/5/09, furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com> wrote:
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> Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 3:29 AM
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> Thanks for this Martin.
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> It could be that for one year now, I have been raising glutathione, gently and slowly by taking its precursors.
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> But last week, I saw an ND who prescribed an Ayurvedic mixture, to purifyand cleanse the organs. Do you think this may have contributed to this super EMS and ES during the last few days?
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> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
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> > > Recently, I started developing, tingling and burning skin. On the face,
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> > > The secondary issue, is that I started getting electric shocks from
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> > > Is it possible if taking vits and supps, and other alternative remedies
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> > Yes, my burning face gets worse with anything that raises glutathione
> > levels, including Vitamin D. Also toxin mobilizers and chelators
> > can make these symptoms worse (e.g. chlorella)
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