Posted by
Ian Kemp on
May 03, 2009; 8:05pm
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Introspect-Oberon-tp1549070p1549187.html
I do not know if the Introspect Oberon machine is the same as the "Oberon"
diagnostic machine, but I suspect that it is. If so I should warn everyone
considering using it that the Oberon actually triggered my wife Sue's
electrosensitivity in 2004. We had never heard of ES before this, we went
to a practitioner who used it to diagnose metabolic problems (it flagged up
liver and pancreas as having severe problems - the former certainly correct,
see some of my previous posts). However the machine transmitted a 3 GHz
signal (microwave frequency range) using earphones for about 10 minutes.
About an hour after we left the clinic Sue said that she was getting rapidly
increasing tinnitus, and it very soon became apparent that this was
seriously aggravated by most types of electric and magnetic field and
microwave signals (mobile phones etc). The problem rapidly got worse and we
have only made real progress in the last 2-3 years by tackling the
underlying problems in her immune system (found by biochemical testing).
So my advice to anyone contemplating using an Oberon-type machine is, DON'T!
Or at least be absolutely sure that it is working on different principles to
the one used on us. The practitioner told us that it had been developed in
the Urals for use on Russian cosmonauts. Of course, by definition, they are
extremely healthy people, and Russia has not been noted for taking great
consideration of health and safety risks in its industries.
Also at that time the information from websites about the operation of
Oberon machines was very poor - the underlying science quoted was a mishmash
of misused physics terms. This does not necessarily mean that the machine
does not work, only that - as for some other ES "cures" - the marketing
people have felt obliged to try to offer some kind of "scientific
explanation" even if they don't really understand how the machine works :-)
Ian
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Subject: Re: [eSens] Introspect Oberon
Hello,
as far as I can see in their website, it is a Scio machine, some sort of
energetic system, more like a Radionics sytem.
In my opinion, a real Rife treatment machine is much better, like a contact
machine like the F-Scan.
There is also the *poor man's rife*.
You can downlaod the NCH tone generator.
Make a square wave of 657 Hz, for f.i. 6 minutes.
Save this as a WAV file and play it on your computer.
Or burn an audio CD together with other frequencies from the known CAFL
lists.
It helps.
Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "johnottawa80" <johnottawa80@ <mailto:johnottawa80%40yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: [eSens] Introspect Oberon
> Hi all,
> In order to get well from eSens, I've been looking into different ways of
> finding the underlying cause of my symptoms.
> There are lots of 'machines' out there which gives different kinds of
> 'diagnosis'.
> I was wondering whether anybody has tried 'Introspect Oberon'?
> If so, did the results/'diagnosis' make sense?
> Any experiences welcome.
> Charles, are you familiar with this 'machine'?
>
> Thanks,
> John O.
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