https://www.es-forum.com/demyelination-vaccines-autism-Lyme-colostrum-tp1548713p1548730.html
I agree with you that es is a condition caused by various and not just one cause (regardless, I still think celiac disease is ONE of those causes and many people who have cd don't know it; so if you are es from that and don'tknow it, you have zero chance of recovery.) But it does seem that the various causes also have various similarities--lymphatic congestion +/or adrenal influences; causing various nutritional deficiencies (or causing the need for various nutrients to be greater); affecting the nervous systems.... I agree that you don't necessarily have to have demyelination, but to recover from es would necessitate overcoming that if you had it. I personally still think maybe a link between all the various problems that cause es is tight-junction permeability. You have to have a gene for it and without the gene you would not react as we do to emfs no matter how much was in your atmosphere. (You might come down with cancer, or something else from
emfs, but you would never be aware it was from emfs because you would not feel them.) But as to the precipitating factors, I agree that can be from different problems/ailments and we should not necessarily think everything that helps one will help all.
> From: Bill Bruno <
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> Subject: Re: [eSens] demyelination/vaccines/autism/Lyme/colostrum
> To:
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> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 12:29 PM
> Is the MS test for myelin basic protein antibodies the test
> you hadfor
> demyelination?
>
> I was negative for that. I'm not sure that ES is one
> condition.
> Note that experiments have shown altered EEGs for healthy
> people with microwave exposure. I think to some extent ES
> is
> just someone who can't recover from EMFs quickly enough
> to
> not have an obvious problem. And lots of things could
> cause
> that.
>
> Bill B
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Andrew McAfee
> <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > ESENS group,
> > I just a found great website by Dr. Carley with more
> information on how
> > vaccines cause auto-immune diseases (and
> demyelination, which I have)
> > and much more.
> > I am glad to see that Dr. Carley is a proponent of
> bovine colostrum in
> > her protocol to recover from this condition (and
> autism).
> > My hunch is that electrical sensitivity is a
> demyelinating auto-immune
> > disorder caused by viruses (measles causes
> demyelination) in a vaccine
> > weakened immune system and stressed by an
> environmental overload
> > (radiation, toxins, chemicals, etc).
> > I hope more people with ES will get tested for
> demyelination and the
> > presence of auto-immune anti-bodies to confirm this
> relationship.
> > I will let you know more on the healing protocol if it
> works for me.
> > Andrew
> >
> > Excerpts from
http://drcarley.com/> >
> > AUTISM IS SUBACUTE SCLEROSING PANENCEPHALITIS
> >
> > INOCULATIONS ARE CAUSING THE CORRUPTION OF THE IMMUNE
> SYSTEM LEADING TO
> > ALL AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE AND CANCER IN PEOPLE AND PETS.
> >
> > ...by directly injecting organisms into the body leads
> to a corruption
> > in the immune system...As a result, the pathogenic
> viruses or bacteria
> > cannot be eliminated by the immune system and remain
> in the body, where
> > they cause chronic disease and thus further grow
> and/or mutate as the
> > individual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins
> in the
> > environment.
> >
> > In fact, the “prevention” of a disease via
> vaccination is, in reality,
> > an inability to expel organisms due to the suppression
> of the
> > cell-mediated response. Thus, rather than preventing
> disease, the
> > disease is actually prevented from ever being
> resolved. The organisms
> > continue circulating through the body, adapting to the
> hostile
> > environment by transforming into other organisms
> depending on acidity,
> > toxicity and other changes to the internal terrain of
> the body as
> > demonstrated by the works of Professor Antoine
> Béchamp. He established
> > this prior to the development of the “germ theory”
> of disease by Louis
> > Pasteur. Pasteur’s “germ theory” was a
> plagiarist’s attempt to reshape
> > the truth from Béchamp into his own “original”
> premise – the beLIEf
> > that germs are out to “attack” us, thereby causing
> dis-ease. Thus,
> > treatment of infection with antibiotics as well as
> “prevention” of
> > disease with vaccines are both just corrupted attempts
> at cutting off
> > the branches of dis-ease, when the root of the cause
> is a toxic
> > internal environment combined with nutritional
> deficiency. However,
> > since Pasteur’s germ theory was conducive to the
> profits of the
> > burgeoning pharmaceutical cartels that only manage
> dis-ease, no mention
> > of the work of Professor Béchamp is made in medical
> school curricula.
> >
> > If components of the myelin sheath (the insulating
> covering of nerve
> > fibers which allows proper nerve conduction) or the
> actual
> > neurofilaments themselves are attacked by
> auto-antibodies, the
> > resultant condition is determined solely by the
> location of the damage
> > done. Such neurological conditions include but are
> not limited to
> > minimal brain dysfunction, ADD/ADHD, learning
> disabilities, mental
> > retardation, criminal behavior, the spectrum of
> pervasive developmental
> > disorders (including autism), multiple sclerosis,
> Parkinson’s disease,
> > Lou Gehrig’s disease, Guillen Barre’, seizure
> disorders, etc., etc.
> > etc. (Please note that other factors are also
> sometimes involved, such
> > as: the spirochete which causes Lymes disease,
> aspartame and mercury in
> > cases of MS; aspartame in seizures; or pesticides in
> cases of
> > Parkinson’s). Thus, when detoxing to reverse these
> diseases, these
> > other substances must also be removed to obtain a full
> recovery.
> > However, the corruption of the immune system caused by
> the injection of
> > vaccines is a key component in these disease states
> leading to immune
> > malfunction, and is the reason why an autistic child
> may also have
> > leaky gut or eczema, etc. Note that myelin
> production, for the most
> > part, does not begin until after birth. Most myelin is
> apparently laid
> > down by age 5 years and usually completed by age 10
> years, judging by
> > the level of success at various ages in reversing
> autistic and other
> > neurological VIDS symptoms that this author has
> observed in hundreds of
> > children by detoxing the viruses with homeopathic
> nosodes5, and
> > repairing the immune corruption by simultaneous
> administration of
> > bovine colostrum (i.e., after 10 years of age, the
> ability to stop and
> > repair auto-antibody induced damage in the myelin
> sheath and
> > neurofilaments themselves is dramatically decreased).
> >
> > # The antigens present in the culture media itself
> cannot be completely
> > filtered and separated from the organisms cultured
> thereon. Thus, any
> > antibodies formed against antigens from the culture
> cells themselves
> > (for example myelin basic protein from chick embryos
> or the 13 vaccines
> > which now contain aborted human fetal cells) can
> cross-react to form an
> > autoimmune reaction against the myelin basic protein
> in your myelin
> > sheath, etc. See the package insert from Pfizer’s
> Rabies vaccine from
> > the “10th Edition of the Compendium of Veterinary
> Products” published
> > in 2007 posted on www.drcarley.com, which states
> “tissue origin
> > vaccines contain extraneous protein in addition to the
> [rabies] antigen
> > that can lead to autoimmune disease”. THIS IS TRUE
> FOR ALL VACCINES,
> > BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN IT ADMITTED BY
> ANY VACCINE
> > MANUFACTURER.
> >
> > Although the symptoms of mercury poisoning have been
> described as
> > identical to the symptoms of autism, it should be
> noted that most
> > children who descend into the hellish state known as
> autism do so after
> > the MMR vaccine. The MMR vaccine is one of the few
> vaccines that do
> > not contain mercury; in fact, it has NEVER contained
> mercury. Thus, it
> > is self-evident that the removal of mercury will not
> make vaccines
> > “safe”. (This is why the mercury is the only
> thing being addressed at
> > all; because when the people reading this paper
> realize that the very
> > mechanism by which vaccines corrupt the immune system
> means that NO
> > vaccine is safe and effective; there will be an
> evolution of
> > consciousness where the structure of lies telling us
> vaccines are safe
> > and effective disintegrates.)
> >
> > The good news is that these VIDS can be reversed
> using natural
> > remedies (especially homeopathy) contained in the
> Hippocrates Protocol
> > (www.drcarley.com).
> >
> > the genocidal plan could drop anytime with activation
> of the Model
> > State Health Emergency Powers Act whenever the next
> fabricated
> > terrorist attack using biological agents occurs. The
> “bird flu” is
> > apparently going to be used as an excuse to inoculate
> the masses soon,
> > as predictions of a pandemic are being made by the
> media almost every
> > day. Little do people know that the 1918 Flu pandemic
> was actually
> > caused by inoculations given to soldiers in WW 1, as
> reported on p. 28
> > of the book Vaccination the Silent Killer by Ida
> Honorof & E. McBean.
> >
> > [as recent evidence see: Vaccines as Biological
> Weapons? Live Avian Flu
> > Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18
> Countries
> >
http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html]
> >
> > As stated in Harrison's Principles of Internal
> Medicine , 6th edition,
> > p. 943: "RARELY IS PREVENTION OF INFECTION PER
> SE CONSIDERED TO BE AN
> > IMPORTANT GOAL OF VACCINATION. In fact, asymptomatic
> infection after
> > vaccination can serve to enhance and prolong the
> immune response." Of
> > course, if the immune response has been overwhelmed or
> corrupted, the
> > "asymptomatic infection" will become a
> CHRONIC DISEASE. In fact, on
> > the same page of Harrison's, in the following
> paragraph, it states the
> > following:
> > "PERSISTENCE AND LATENCY. Many viruses persist
> in host tissues for
> > months or years without causing overt disease. A
> FLARE-UP OF THESE
> > LATENT INFECTIONS MAY BE INDUCED BY TRAUMA,
> INTERCURRENT DISEASE,
> > DECLINE IN ANTIBODY TITERS, OR UNKNOWN STIMULI.
> Experiments with
> > tissue cultures and laboratory animals reveal that
> persistence of virus
> > in tissue results from an interplay of various factors
> peculiar to each
> > virus and its host. LATENCY IS PROMOTED BY THE
> PRESENCE OF ANTIBODY OR
> > OTHER VIRAL INHIBITORS THAT PREVENT EXTENSIVE
> CELL-TO-CELL SPREAD OF
> > VIRUS. IF ANTIBODY IS WITHDRAWN, VIRAL MULTIPLICATION
> OFTEN RESUMES,
> > WITH CONCOMITANT CELLULAR NECROSIS."
> >
> > In the same (6th) Edition of Harrison's
> Principles of Internal
> > Medicine , it is stated on page 975 in regards to the
> poliomyelitis
> > vaccine: "Vaccine virus multiplies in the
> intestinal tract and remains
> > at this site. LIVE VACCINE VIRUS SPREADS AND INFECTS
> CONTACTS OF
> > VACCINATED INDIVIDUALS. This type of immunization in
> the presence of
> > epidemic poliomyelitis may lead to REPLACEMENT OF THE
> "WILD"
> > PARALYTOGENIC STRAIN BY THE ONE IN THE
> VACCINE....." In direct
> > contradiction to this statement, the 1/1/2000 Vaccine
> Information
> > statement put out by the U.S. Department of Health
> & Human Services,
> > Centers for Disease Control and Prevention National
> Immunization
> > Program states that the "OPV (Oral Polio
> Vaccine) is better at keeping
> > the disease from spreading to other people. However,
> it does state in
> > this document that "OPV actually causes
> polio".
> >
> > The inoculation of organisms causes disease both by
> direct introduction
> > of organisms (including viruses that cause cancer)
> into the
> > bloodstream, as well as corruption of the immune
> system leading to
> > autoimmune disease (was posted on the CDC's own
> website and then
> > removed) OCSO - OPHR - CDC's Research Agenda -
> Starter List Comments ,
> > where Dr. Carley's paper "Inoculation the
> True Weapons of Mass
> > Destruction causing an Epidemic of Genocide" was
> posted, and describes
> > the mechanism whereby corruption of the immune system
> occurs). In
> > this paper (which Dr. William Atkinson of the
> CDC's immunization
> > program has refused to respond to), it states that the
> hyperactivity of
> > the humeral arm of the immune system in autoimmune
> disease is caused by
> > adjuvants added just for that purpose. However, the
> damage caused by
> > the autoimmunity (i.e., antibody against self) has
> several mechanisms,
> > including the following:
> >
> > 1. The antigens present in the culture media
> itself cannot be
> > completely filtered and separated from the organisms
> cultured thereon.
> > Thus, any antibodies formed against antigens from the
> culture cells
> > themselves (for example myelin basic protein from
> chick embryos or the
> > 13 vaccines which now contain aborted human fetal
> cells) can
> > cross-react to form an autoimmune reaction against the
> myelin basic
> > protein in your myelin sheath, etc. causing
> DEMYELINATION.
> >
> > 2. Molecular mimicry is due to similarity of
> proteins contained
> > in organisms and mammals. (For example, the measles
> virus is made up
> > of proteins similar to myelin basic protein; thus,
> antibodies formed
> > against the measles virus antigens subsequently also
> cause an
> > auto-antibody attack against myelin basic protein in
> the myelin sheath
> > due to cross reactivity of these antibodies) causing
> DEMYELINATION
> > (leading to Autism, as proven below).
> >
> > In the aforementioned 6th edition of
> Harrison's
> > Principles of Internal Medicine on p. 1791, under
> the heading
> > "Multiple Sclerosis and other DEMYELINATING
> Diseases", it states the
> > following: "A large and important group of
> neurologic disorders are
> > termed the demyelinating diseases because they share
> the common
> > pathologic feature of foci of degeneration, involving
> the myelin sheath
> > of nerves. These foci vary in size, shape,
> distribution, and rate of
> > development in the different illnesses. The axis
> cylinder often
> > suffers damage, as does the myelin sheath, but the
> destruction of
> > myelin is considered the primary change...syndromes
> can be clearly
> > distinguished....(including) acute disseminated
> encephalomyelitis
> > (including post infectious and POSTVACCINAL
> ENCEPHALOMYELITIS)...(P.
> > 1798) - "the association of the neurologic
> disorder with vaccination or
> > inoculation usually leaves the diagnosis in little
> doubt, and the
> > characteristic combination of encephalitic and
> myelitic features will
> > help to distinguish the condition from meningitis,
> viral encephalitis,
> > and poliomyelitis". This self evident fact has
> been taken out of
> > subsequent editions of Harrison's Principles of
> Internal Medicine ,
> > since as the vaccine schedule has dramatically
> increased over the
> > years, the incidence of vaccine induced demyelination
> has
> > correspondingly increased. This is most evident in
> the case of autism,
> > which has now risen to epidemic proportions in this
> country. Yet,
> > whereas there is almost no history of the disease in
> the families of
> > these children in most cases, and the parents report
> the onset of
> > symptoms after the child receives the MMR vaccine, the
> various arms of
> > the medical establishment (including the CDC) conclude
> that this is
> > just a "coincidence"; rather than that the
> association of the
> > neurologic disorder (autism) with vaccination or
> inoculation usually
> > leaves the diagnosis in little doubt. The way that
> the true etiology
> > of autism is hidden from doctors is by changing the
> name of the vaccine
> > induced disease. For example, SUB ACUTE SCLEROSING
> PAN ENCEPHALITIS
> > (SSPE) has been changed to AUTISM, as is demonstrated
> in the 10th
> > edition of Harrison's Principles of Internal
> Medicine where, on page
> > 2096, the following information about SSPE is
> included:
> >
> > "...The disease affects boys 3 to
> 10 times as frequently
> > as girls...Characteristically, they are entirely well
> until the disease
> > begins. The onset of usually insidious mental
> deterioration, often
> > expressed by a decline in the patient's
> schoolwork, is the presenting
> > symptom . Incoordination, ataxia, and myoclonic jerks
> develop within a
> > few months along with abnormalities of the pyramidal
> and extrapyramidal
> > motor systems....Elevated levels of measles antibody
> are found in the
> > serum and CSF....Measles virus is the etiologic
> agent....Staining of
> > brain tissue from patients with the disease
> demonstrates measles virus
> > antigen in the inclusions....A few reported cases have
> been related to
> > measles vaccination." Of course, the vaccine
> etiology has been deleted
> > from the 16th edition of Harrison's Principles of
> Internal Medicine ,
> > although the age of onset has been changed to 2 years
> in that edition.
> >
> > What becomes SELF EVIDENT from these
> various editions of
> > Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine (the
> "Bible" by which all
> > medical students learn about internal medicine) is
> that the source of
> > almost all of the viruses that cause demyelinating
> diseases is actually
> > VACCINES; and that the names of the diseases are
> changed to hide the
> > true etiology. Another example of this can be found
> on page 2104 of
> > the 10th edition of Harrison's Principles of
> Internal Medicine, under
> > the discussion of ACUTE NECROTIZING HEMORRHAGIC
> ENCEPHALOMYELITIS,
> > which is described as a "tissue destructive
> disease of the central
> > nervous system which occurs with explosive suddenness
> within a few days
> > of an upper respiratory infection. The pathologic
> findings are
> > distinctive. On sectioning the brain, much of the
> white matter of one
> > or both hemispheres is seen to be destroyed almost to
> the point of
> > liquefaction. The involved tissue is pink or
> yellowish-gray and
> > flecked with multiple small hemorrhages. Sometimes
> similar changes are
> > localized to the brainstem or spinal cord. As in
> acute disseminated
> > encephalomyelitis in showing perivenular foci of
> demyelination, all of
> > like age.....The cerebrospinal fluid examination
> discloses a more
> > intense reaction than in other demyelinating
> diseases....The etiology
> > of this disease is not established; however, the
> entire
> > clinical-pathologic entity bears a close resemblance
> to a hyper acute
> > form of EAE which can be induced in animals by
> administration of
> > endotoxin, PERTUSSIS VACCINE, or its histamine
> sensitizing factor
> > coincident with or shortly after injection of myelin
> in adjuvant. What
> > is self evident from this description is that this
> disease is actually
> > SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) or many of the
> cases of Shaken Baby
> > Syndrome (the differentiation being whether the child
> has any evidence
> > of trauma that the prosecutor can use to make a case
> for shaken baby
> > and subsequently charge a parent with murder, as
> happened in the
> > well-known case of Alan Yurko in Florida). Thus, once
> again, the name
> > of the disease has been changed to conceal the fact
> that the pertussis
> > vaccine is the cause of SIDS and many cases of Shaken
> Baby Syndrome.
> >
> >
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