Re: New web site: EMFSensitivity

Posted by charles-4 on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/New-web-site-EMFSensitivity-tp1547145p1547161.html

Hello Jane,

you think that that website is unique from what you know of the online web
sites.

Well, I guess you do not know so much.
Sorry to say so, but you asked in your forum, a general question about EMF
meters.
Obviously you did not read my recommendations for meters, placed on my
website.
(Most common meters, I do have here.)

You obviously did not read my many publications about available EMF meters.

On your website a book is presented.
Did you see the long list of books on my website?

Shielding is something, that layman should not do themselves, without having
measured properly.
And a Trifield meter is certainly not enough in order to find all
elektrosmog sources.
After many hundreds of building biological house surveys, I have found, that
the self shielding without proper advice can work adversely and the
situation can get worse.
Aluminium is a very bad material for this.
Many people do point to a mobile phone mast, not realising, that there are
much heavier sources around.
I do know a number of people who have become electrosensible from their own
bed, and now react to magnetic fields and mobile phones.
Without a proper extensive inventory of all elektrosmog sources, an advice
from a distance cannot be given.


Most of the stuff do happen in Europe.
The critics on several studies do come from Germany, positive as negative.
I published the faults on the TNO and ETH studies about 3 G.
I did not find that on any american website (except Slesin of course, and
EMFacts).

The eSens is the advanced, because they also give information about what to
do about the immune system.
Shielding is one thing (which helps only partly), raising the immune system
is quite another, and often much better.

With eSens products and other stuff are widely discussed, and frankly and
honestly, without any prejudice.

Where do you find elsewhere information about 3G, its successor LTE, Wimax
802.16, Mobile-fi, UWB, Wlan 802.11b and g, Wlan 802.11a, Wimax 802.16e,
MBWA, Wireless USB, DVB-T, DVB-H, etc.?

Many people do not take the trouble to read it all.
They want quick answers.

You Jane, are not different from most people..
But to comprehend the problemacy, you have to study more, and read more.
It is all there, but you must take the time to comprehend it.

Although I am an expert, I still read a lot and study a lot, and learn
everyday new things.

There are many websites from protesters of mobile phone masts, but they do
not give adequate information.
And very often, their advices are wrong. They mean it right, but are wrong.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane Parks" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New web site: EMFSensitivity



Hello Marc and Charles,

First off, the web site is unique from what I know of the online web sites
covering EMF Sensitivity. The web site is designed for individuals suffering
from EMF Sensitivity, rather than scientists or industry professionals
(although they are welcome to visit and use the site). The web site
discusses how architecture for example is one of the main methods for
mitigating EMFs. Other web sites focus more on News and Research, neither of
which covers architecture or shielding methods.

With regards to Discussion Forums, my belief is that each Discussion Forum
takes on its own personality, like the Press or a Newspaper.
Some individuals will follow certain columnists, other individuals will
follow other columnists.

The differences between Discussion Forums can be quite subtle. For example,
the Name of your forum can have a huge impact on your Discussion Forum.
Also, the user settings and the level of moderating that is implemented on
each forum. When I began using discussion forums on this topic several years
ago, it took several weeks for my posts to appear and to be distributed
publicly. I found this to be very unwelcoming.

Finally, I believe that there is a level of indirection and dishonesty in
the industry that almost purposefully misleads consumers. There are very
large vested interests who are opposed to open discussion on this topic. As
someone who has suffered greatly from EMF sensitivity, this Discussion Forum
offers a frank and true perspective on practical solutions for living with
EMF Sensitivity. Individuals who suffer from EMF Sensitivity can quickly
evaluate strategies, products, and advice based on their own personal
experience.

I hope you will try the forum and you can see the difference for yourselves.

Regards,
Jane Parks





----- Original Message ----
From: charles <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2008 11:09:56 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New web site: EMFSensitivity


Hallo Marc,

you are right.
It looks like one of the many sites where people can complain.
And where advices are given, we all already do know about.

So, in fact nothing new.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <marc@ufoseries. com>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New web site: EMFSensitivity

>> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ emfsensitivity
>
> Thanks for that information, Jane. I'm curious, is your discussion
> group trying to be different in some way from the other Yahoo Groups
> already setup for folks with EMF sensitivity? It seems that there
> are already several such groups (eSens, EMR-EMF, EMFrefugee, etc.)
> and I am wondering if there really is a need for yet another?
>
> When I started this group several years ago, it did have a
> different purpose than any of the other existing groups -- that
> purpose was for people to overcome their ES and ultimately be
> cured.
>
> Marc
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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