Posted by evie15422 on
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Hi, Charles (and All),
 
Thanks for your explanation.  Very interesting, btw!  
 
I agree that going wired is much better than wireless, too, usually, and should have been more clear when I wrote my post.  I was trying to communicate (in my difficulty to communicate) that just because something is wired, it doesn't mean it will not affect you.  I need to be particularly careful of digital products and products with internal fans whether they are wireless or not (personally--I am sure other people here differ somewhat in what they can tolerate).  It is always a good idea for me to buy an appliance or product that can be returned, as new products often vary from the old ones I used to do well with.  Trying out a product ahead of time is the only way to know for sure if you will tolerate it, was the gist of what I was trying to relate in my previous email.  ;) 
 
Thanks again for explaning the tv phenomenon, Charles,
Diane

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello everyone-an introduction/Stewart
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:41 PM

I can guarantee you that wired is much better than wireless.

A lot of electrosensibles are succeptable to *dirty power*.

Dirty power is not only in the *mains*, but also *in the air*.

A number of electrical appliances may produce those frequencies.

Especially TV sets do.
They have frequencies for producing the images, but others for digital
images.
So there are very different frequencies used for the image building on
television screens.

Most of them are between 5 kHz and 200 kHz.

I use for detection a VLF Spion with a small digital antenna. With it, I can
measure the total surface of e LCD television,and that way can find any
disturbing spots, for which electrosensibles can have adverse health
reactions.
Some television sets are fine, while others are really a disaster.

Listen to some modulations on:
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html

Electrosensibles beware !!

Those sounds are audible, so the frequencies may be between 20 Hz and 20.000
Hz.
So technically, high frequency carrier frequencies cannot be there included,
like 900 MHz or 1800 MHz.
Stiil, electrosensible people may experience trouble while just listening to
these sounds.
The original source is not present, and neither are the Hf carrier
frequencies.

That is the proof of the pudding, that the pulsrates, or modulations, which
are lowfrequent, do the harm to people.


Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "Evie" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello everyone-an introduction/Stewart


> Hi, Amy,
>  
> Sorry the last reply got sent without anything in it! 
>  
> I am not totally sure all wired is better than wireless.  For me
> personally, I see a diffference between analog and digital
signals. 
> This comes into play particularly with the tv sets now.  I see a
> difference with "high definition" tv programs playing
on my analog tv
> too.  I think what the govt is trying to do is
phase out
> analog transmittions altogether.  I now have an analog cordless
> phone--it doesn't bother me at all.  But I cannot go near my
> brother's digital phone in his home.  Same with tv,
my analog
> set usually doesn't bother me, except when you go into the settings
and
> get the"blue screen".  However, when a high
def tv program comes
> on, I get headaches and dizzy.  (Followed by turning it
off.) 
>  
> I was thinking I'd be ok with a cable
connection with my
> analog/digital set tuned into analog once they do away with analog next
> year, but now I am wondering whether that will work either. 
(Since I
> can still react to hi def programs with it set to analog.) 
>  
> So much of this is not known until you get into the situation and you just

> have to play around with fixes or get rid of particular things you can
> live without.  But do not assume a corded item is better, because
you
> may be like me and react to digital frequencies.  You may need to

> experiment some with the electronics of friends to see what you can
> tolerate best.  But know that that can also change. 
There are
> things I once tolerated well that have now become less tolerable.
>  
> Also, you mentioned about wi-max towers affecting the out-lying areas of
> the country.  That is true.  I live in a rural area and
it can
> be bad in much of the mountainous areas.  But since you are house

> hunting....  If you can, try out either the highest points in
your
> area, where no other mtn ranges are even close.  (They position
most
> towers on mtn ranges and position them so the frequencies are somewhat
> pointed down, rather than out--at least that is my experience
here. 
> So on mountains some ways away from towers can be quite peaceful,
> es-wise.)  OR, if you can find valleys where there are twists and

> turns in the topography--no long straight valley where a tower at either
> end would affect you--that can also sometimes work well as long as there
> are no towers above.  In a city setting, many buildings can also
be
> shielding, but then you have to be concerned about what electronics the
> occupants are using.
>  
> Also there is this site, sent to us by another member here,
which you
> can use to tell where towers are:
>  
> http://www.antennasearch.com/
>  
> Good luck,
> Diane
>  
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello everyone-an introduction/Stewart
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:55 PM
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> Thanks for all the info you gave. That's one thing I can't see
about
> moving
> to the middle of nowhere. Now they are planning these WIMAX towers, I
> don't
> see why it would even matter. And right now we have a cordless phone, but
> when
> we move I'm changing that. So would you all say that wireless devices
are
> worse than nonwireless?
> Amy
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