Re: DITCH the DECT...pleeeease

Posted by asurisuk on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/DITCH-the-DECT-pleeeease-tp1545055p1545115.html

thanks for keeping in touch about this, as it is something one can
advise a neighbour to buy, or even a local council or other
organisation to help protect their staff.

Still a bit confused about its specifications. So its not an actual
DECT phone then, that meets with that protocal, but its a phone that
works wirelessly? Any idea what frequency the manufacturer says it
uses? Does the Acousti Com/esmog detector pick it up?

The best test of course is for an electrosensitive to have it in
their house, because they would soon know if it was emitting pulsed
RF 24/7 or not (I hope you're paying attention you provocation study
people!)
j



--- In [hidden email], "richardx21" <richardx21@...> wrote:
>
>
> It turns out the Orchid Phone current models 309 and 329 TAM
(integral
> Telephone Answering Machine) is slightly different from as
previously
> described!
>
> Electro SensitivityUK www.es-uk.org.uk <http://www.es-uk.org.uk>  
have
> an Orchid phone on evaluation and now I've managed to get my hands
on
> it, its clear from an ES perspective how it works.
>
> As long as the handset is in the base station cradle/charger the RF
is
> supressed unless the phone is being rung. So if you plug the base
into
> your out-of-the-way phone socket and have the handset next to your
> desk/bed etc. then the base unit transmits continuously just like
any
> other DECT phone. There is a handy little green light marke 'low
> radiation' on the front of the base station that glows when the
handset
> is in the cradle.
>
> However - the good folks at Orchid Electronics advise that they are
> bringing out a multi-handset model in the very near future. There
is a
> good chance that the RF in this new model will remain supressed so
long
> as a handset is in the base station/charger cradle and that a second
> (and possibly any subsequent) handset(s) could be near where people
> actually want to use it and RF silent until a call comes in. I am
hoping
> for a call next week from their technical people to advise and will
post
> here accordingly.
>
> Also Re How Normal DECT Phones Work: If a DECT phone is installed
on a
> line with ordinary telephones, when a call comes in, all associated
DECT
> handsets perform an RF handshaking with the base station thus
markedly
> raising the ambient RF for a few seconds. If the call is
subsequently
> taken on one of the ordinary phones, the handset all go silent
again but
> of course a normal DECT base will continue to pump out its
continuous
> signal.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "asurisuk" <asurisuk@> wrote:
> >
> > I sent charles's comment to the owner of the website Richard X
> > mentioned that is selling the Orchid phone. He says this:
> >
> > "It has nothing to do with US protocol; put simply the base
station
> > (improved latest model from one on You Tube) lies dormant until a
> > call comes in to the land line that the unit is attached to or the
> > handset is dialed out from. Also whilst the handset is in
reasonable

> > proximity of the base station, radiation from the handset to the
> > brain compared to a normal Dect handset is reduced by 70%."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" wbruno@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Your conclusions may be right in Europe, but not in the US
> > > (wikipedia says the E in DECT used to stand for European).
> > > DECT phones are now available in the US but only in the last
> > > couple years (FCC changed its rules to let them in).
> > > We mostly have other kinds of digital phones,
> > > with labels like DSS or FHSS or DSSS. Most of these are 2.4 GHz
> > > (which is dumb because microwave ovens or WiFi cause
interference;
> > > one reason DECT is coming in) but the newest ones are indeed 5.8
> > GHz.
> > >
> > > I'm unclear about the IRIS phone- is it some variant of DECT
that

> > > does not transmit 24/7?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On 9/12/07, charles charles@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Of course all wireless phones transmit when in use, also the
> > analogue
> > > > ones.
> > > >
> > > > But that is not the point.
> > > > The point is, that the base stations of ALL DECT phones keep
> > emitting
> > > > signals, whether you use the phone or not.
> > > > And they do that 24 hours a day.
> > > >
> > > > So, if you measured a lot of cordless phones in the US, and
you

> > did not
> > > > find
> > > > signals on the base stations, that means:
> > > >
> > > > 1. they were not according the DECT principle, so they are
> > analogue, or
> > > > 2. they were DECT phones, but not DECT 1, but DECT 2.
> > > >
> > > > DECT1 uses 1880-1900 MHz.
> > > > DECT2 uses 5725-5825 MHz, and that lies outside the measuring
> > range of
> > > > most
> > > > RF meters
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Charles Claessens
> > > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > > www.minderstraling.nl
> > > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > > checked by Bitdefender
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bill Bruno" wbruno@ <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> > > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 00:47
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] DITCH the DECT...pleeeease
> > > >
> > > > >A lot of cordless phones I tested here in the US only
transmit
> > when in
> > > > use.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some in particular that worked this way were
Uniden "PowerMax"
> > phones
> > > > > and some Panasonic phones. They do send a huge blast when
first
> > powered
> > > > > on.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would not recommend changing phones unless you're sure the
> > one you
> > > > have
> > > > > now is a problem... changing frequencies and analog to
digital

> > may
> > > > > possibly
> > > > > make
> > > > > matters much worse?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/11/07, richardx21 richardx21@<richardx21%
> > 40yahoo.co.uk>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It pains me to suggest this but for people whose neighbours
> > simply
> > > > >> won't DITCH THE DECT maybe they would accept a 'safer'
> > alternative.
> > > > >> Apparently, the Orchid base only transmits when in use and
the

> > > > >> handsets have intelligent power management. See
> > wirelessfacts.co.uk
> > > > >> for more details.
> > > > >>
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