ES - Re: DITCH the DECT...pleeeease

Re: DITCH the DECT...pleeeease

Posted by richardx21 on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/DITCH-the-DECT-pleeeease-tp1545055p1545112.html

It turns out the Orchid Phone current models 309 and 329 TAM (integral
Telephone Answering Machine) is slightly different from as previously
described!

Electro SensitivityUK www.es-uk.org.uk <http://www.es-uk.org.uk> have
an Orchid phone on evaluation and now I've managed to get my hands on
it, its clear from an ES perspective how it works.

As long as the handset is in the base station cradle/charger the RF is
supressed unless the phone is being rung. So if you plug the base into
your out-of-the-way phone socket and have the handset next to your
desk/bed etc. then the base unit transmits continuously just like any
other DECT phone. There is a handy little green light marke 'low
radiation' on the front of the base station that glows when the handset
is in the cradle.

However - the good folks at Orchid Electronics advise that they are
bringing out a multi-handset model in the very near future. There is a
good chance that the RF in this new model will remain supressed so long
as a handset is in the base station/charger cradle and that a second
(and possibly any subsequent) handset(s) could be near where people
actually want to use it and RF silent until a call comes in. I am hoping
for a call next week from their technical people to advise and will post
here accordingly.

Also Re How Normal DECT Phones Work: If a DECT phone is installed on a
line with ordinary telephones, when a call comes in, all associated DECT
handsets perform an RF handshaking with the base station thus markedly
raising the ambient RF for a few seconds. If the call is subsequently
taken on one of the ordinary phones, the handset all go silent again but
of course a normal DECT base will continue to pump out its continuous
signal.

--- In [hidden email], "asurisuk" <asurisuk@...> wrote:

>
> I sent charles's comment to the owner of the website Richard X
> mentioned that is selling the Orchid phone. He says this:
>
> "It has nothing to do with US protocol; put simply the base station
> (improved latest model from one on You Tube) lies dormant until a
> call comes in to the land line that the unit is attached to or the
> handset is dialed out from. Also whilst the handset is in reasonable
> proximity of the base station, radiation from the handset to the
> brain compared to a normal Dect handset is reduced by 70%."
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" wbruno@ wrote:
> >
> > Your conclusions may be right in Europe, but not in the US
> > (wikipedia says the E in DECT used to stand for European).
> > DECT phones are now available in the US but only in the last
> > couple years (FCC changed its rules to let them in).
> > We mostly have other kinds of digital phones,
> > with labels like DSS or FHSS or DSSS. Most of these are 2.4 GHz
> > (which is dumb because microwave ovens or WiFi cause interference;
> > one reason DECT is coming in) but the newest ones are indeed 5.8
> GHz.
> >
> > I'm unclear about the IRIS phone- is it some variant of DECT that
> > does not transmit 24/7?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On 9/12/07, charles charles@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Of course all wireless phones transmit when in use, also the
> analogue
> > > ones.
> > >
> > > But that is not the point.
> > > The point is, that the base stations of ALL DECT phones keep
> emitting
> > > signals, whether you use the phone or not.
> > > And they do that 24 hours a day.
> > >
> > > So, if you measured a lot of cordless phones in the US, and you
> did not
> > > find
> > > signals on the base stations, that means:
> > >
> > > 1. they were not according the DECT principle, so they are
> analogue, or
> > > 2. they were DECT phones, but not DECT 1, but DECT 2.
> > >
> > > DECT1 uses 1880-1900 MHz.
> > > DECT2 uses 5725-5825 MHz, and that lies outside the measuring
> range of
> > > most
> > > RF meters
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.minderstraling.nl
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Bitdefender
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Bruno" wbruno@ <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 00:47
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] DITCH the DECT...pleeeease
> > >
> > > >A lot of cordless phones I tested here in the US only transmit
> when in
> > > use.
> > > >
> > > > Some in particular that worked this way were Uniden "PowerMax"
> phones
> > > > and some Panasonic phones. They do send a huge blast when first
> powered
> > > > on.
> > > >
> > > > I would not recommend changing phones unless you're sure the
> one you
> > > have
> > > > now is a problem... changing frequencies and analog to digital
> may
> > > > possibly
> > > > make
> > > > matters much worse?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > On 9/11/07, richardx21 richardx21@<richardx21%
> 40yahoo.co.uk>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> It pains me to suggest this but for people whose neighbours
> simply
> > > >> won't DITCH THE DECT maybe they would accept a 'safer'
> alternative.
> > > >> Apparently, the Orchid base only transmits when in use and the
> > > >> handsets have intelligent power management. See
> wirelessfacts.co.uk
> > > >> for more details.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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