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There are not that many people who possess such an amount of meters and
antennas.
And not even I can measure longitudinal waves.
I am in good contact with Dr. Gruen.
At the time of this dish, I read an article where someone pointed out, that
those satellite dishes were surrounded with *clouds of longitudinal waves*.
The *wheatseed water test* of Dr. Gruen showed that longitudinal waves pass
right through shieldings, so also throuigh metallic dishes.
And Dr. Gruen stated, that longitudinal waves, when passing through a
shielding, their information may change from positive into negative, vice
versa.
It is this information on longitudinal waves, where people may react to.
As I mentioned earlier, not to a heavy DECT signal, but to a very weak DECT
signal with heavy reactions.
Taken that all into consideration, and the fact, that I could not measure
anything at all, at this special spot in the room, I dismantled, the dish,
and the earlier adverse complaints were gone.
So, my only conclusion is, that those longitudinal waves were the point.
I have no other explanation.
Of course, we have the signals from the satellites.
Many therapists claim, that they find 24 GHz frequencies in children, coming
from satellites.
But those frequencies are all around, not bundled precisely at the back of a
dish.
And they are only reflected at the front; they do not pass through metal.
What kind of spectrum analyzer are you waiting?
Do you think you know how to handle such a device?
Do you realize how complicated that is?
It takes at least six months to learn.
Courts is something we should avoid.
Nothing can be gained there.
We cannot prove anything in court.
Yes, many people are sick by the elektrosmog, but we cannot prove that.
In Germany many people take blood tests before and after a phone mast is
erected.
The blood changes are very clear and disturbing.
Still, in court it means nothing.
Since the victims do not drop dead instantly, there is no health danger, so
they rule.
The *aussies* are as mean as anywhere else.
See, the radio breast cancer stories at ABC Toowong (www.emfacts.com).
See the story about your Dr. John Holt, who told for your television, that
he cures cancer, and that he has done so for the last 30 (=thrirty) years.
The television reports then showed many people, who were sent home in the
1970-ies, because their cancer could not be treated any further, and now
gave proof, of the successfull treatment of the 80 year old dr. John Holt,
and that they are still alive, thanks to him.
However, dr. John Holt has been harrased by the australian government, and
the Australian Medical Association. like everywhere in the world, where they
want to ban successfull alternative cancer treatments.
Btw. dr John Holt does not use mumbo-jumbo, but he injects his patients with
a glucose blocker, and radiates with 424 MHz.
The TV interviews can stiil be seen at www.rifeforum.de
Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "rowster_c" <
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 07:18
Subject: [eSens] Re: stellite television provider close to home?
> Hello Charles,
>
> could you please tell us how you detected the longitudinal waves?
> Last fortnight I contacted Dr Gruen and Prof Meyl regarding
> the longitudinal waves. Dr Gruen said on this list once that
> they are blocked by about an inch of water. Prof Meyl has not
> given enough info on this. I want to know, can they be blocked
> by water if anybody knows, and Charles how do you detect them?
>
> Now I'm not sure everyone will agree with the waves, but if they
> do exist and are given off by sharply accelerated radiation in the
> khz range from monitors and inverters, heard as annoying squawking
> on a radio,
> then maybe we could try a 'water jacketed computer', as an additional
> layer around our shielded ones.
> I am half thinking about taking a shielded
> and emissions minimized computer like we have discussed and built
> here, and wrapping it completely in a water jacket, as well as
> putting springlife polarizers and bioprotects on it. It would be
> interesting if this increased current efforts. If water does stop
> these
> waves if they exist I imagine full encirclement of the computer
> running of batteries would be required. Perhaps as a first attempt
> a two inch thick, say two panes of glass ultra thin fish tank,
> could be put in front of a monitor. This is a bit tricky, so it
> would be good to have any info first.
>
> If you have a reliable method of detecting the waves we would
> like to know. Also, bundle of long waves at back of satellite
> dish, well a CRT screen looks like a satellite dish.
>
> Right now I am stuck in Melbourne having waited for a spectrum
> analyzer that did not arrive, very unnaturally sleepy in this flat.
> We have had horse flu over here and I have noticed that 5 of 6
> of the outbreaks in this country of highly pathogenic animal flu
> have initiated in certain proximity to an airport, and in military
> cases just off in line with the runway. I have not established
> the whereabouts of the sixth outbreak but am aware it is nearby
> one of the other 5, and that additionally the same thing seems
> to have happened in Abbotsford Canada. I am writing that up.
>
> Also on another topic: there is a fellow over here facing
> court in a few weeks. Discretion should be used discussing certain
> issues here and I may be contacted off list. A previous effort
> to look at some records seems to have run into problems with
> individual affected by wifi at record location. I mentioned about
> Gugielmo Marconi for those who remember. If a certain record
> check were performed to establish more accurately particulars
> of his med history and it were shown that it is likely that he
> was the first electrosensitive (Arthur Firstenberg tells
> me that cases are documented back to the 18th century),
> it is my strict opinion that this
> information may be mitigating in consideration of a certain vulnerable
> individual's legal fate.I am appealling,
> and would consider it a great favor, for anyone who has some
> Italian language or feels competent with wireless and medical
> records, and can check some records at locations in England
> and/ or Italy, hopefully in the next 10 days, to contact me. As
> well as a certain individual being assisted, we all would. It
> can be seen that this individual has had an effect on public
> opinion here judging by news reports, and I think he deserves our
> support in some respect.
>
> Rowan C
>
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>> Longitudinal waves do go right through metal surfaces.
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>> I have found, that at the back of a satellite dish, a bundle of
> longitudinal
>> waves may be present there.
>> (After we dismantled the dish, the problems were gone!)
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>> So, my advice would be, that you look carefully around and see,
> that no
>> direct back of a dish is pointing in your direction.
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