It is good to talk to someone who knows things about this, unlike myself. I have shielding of some sort in every room in my house. But I am concentrating mostly on my living room for now since it is the room where I spend most of my time. I live in a mobile home that was very cheap which I fixed up on the inside. If I lived in a regular home I would not be experimenting so much with the shielding. I have layers of shielding which eventually I will cover with some 1/4 inch sheetrock to hide it. And I am placing insulation ceiling tiles on the ceiling to cover the shielding there. I have layers of different materials that I have tried. Some that block microwaves. Others are just very conductive and I use them to ground the whole thing. Chicken wire didn't do anything for me. I used to put it into the walls when I was replacing all the cheap material that originally was in the home. The smaller the holes in the wire the better. I use wire with 1/4 inch openings. I have been told that you should place another sheet of wire aquarter inch on top of the first wire and make sure the holes don't line up. What I did was place insulation between the wire. I found this to be very very helpful. Although the space between the wire is about 3/4 inch. I am open to testing any other shielding materials but the are mostly so expensive when looked for on line. I'm open to any suggestions if anybody else has any ideas for shielding materials.
saltwater is far more effective than normal water. Even with
saltwater, the effectiveness varies by frequency. Although a few
frequencies in the HF and ELF range can easily penetrate it. In
the past, military submarine communications took place via ELF. In
enough to be useful for blocking EMF's for electrosensitivity. Even
> I would not guess that it was the snow on the roof that was
> blocking the signals since the snow on the roof was still there for
> awhile after the storm stopped and the clock started working
> again. What you are saying is that it could be that water can
> block emf if the shielding is everywhere. I will have to try
> another experiment with the clock surrounded by water on all sides
> and if it works then that would prove that water can shield
> frequencies.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Garth Hitchens
> To:
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Water as an emf block
>
>
> This thing about water isn't really a useful test.
>
> The atomic clock signals from colorado are broadcast on 2.5, 5, 10,
> 15 and 20 mhz. Depending on the time of day and sunspot activity,
> they could arrive on any one of those frequencies. In addition,
> because the signals bounce off the ionosphere one or more times, it
> is likely that the signals are approaching your house at a high
> angle
> (toward your roof, rather than at the side of your house). Finally,
> HF radio signals (such as the ones you describe) are absorbed and
> re-
> radiated by pipes, gutters, wiring, and almost everything else metal
> inside your house, 'scrambling' the apparent direction of the
> signal.
>
> Trying to block the WWV signal (time signal) using a gallon of water
> is kind of like trying to stop an AM radio signal from getting to an
> AM radio by the same method. It won't work.
>
> To make matters even more complicated, the national bureau of
> standards and technologies also broadcasts the time signals on the
> SAME FREQUENCIES from Hawaii, so depending on time of day and
> geographic location, you could be picking up the Hawaii signals
> instead.
>
> If you have a short-wave radio receiver you can listen to the
> signals
> - usually strongest on 5, 10, or 15 MHz. The male voice is from
> Colorado, the female voice is from Hawaii, in case you can hear
> both.
>
> I can also attest that you can do a LOT of shielding (whether water
> or metal or snow) and you can still get plenty of HF radio into your
> house via gaps in the shielding or walls where there is no snow.
>
> Garth
>
> On Dec 27, 2006, at 4:26 AM, denom wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info. I did an experiment last nite. My atomic
>> clock faces east and on the opposite side of the wall which faces
>> Colorado where the signal is supposed to come from I put a gallon
>> bottle of water. It didn't block the signal to the clock. It
>> would be interesting to know what it is about the snow storm, snow
>> shoe, that blocked the signal to the clock.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: snoshoe_2
>> To:
[hidden email]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:08 PM
>> Subject: [eSens] Re: Water as an emf block
>>
>>
>> I hope everyone's Christmas was better than mine this year! :) Was
>> sick but good.
>>
>> From a previous post, here you go:
>> "one of the few things that protects
>> against magnetic fields is water. If there's anyone building a
>> house, or even greenhouse (which this is used for), it might be
>> worth
>> looking into incorporating. It's called "Water Wall Bags". I found
>> it in a catalog, www.GrowersSupply.com I'd guess it could be gotten
>> cheaper elsewhere."
>>
>> ~ Snoshoe
>>
>> --- In
[hidden email], "denom" <denom@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Since you are aware of the effect of water as a emf protection
>> device you have probably thought about or looked for devices,
>> products and ways to use water as a shielding device. Are there any
>> products or strategies or methods that you have found to use
>> water as
>> a shield. I do not know enough to myself to contruct such a device
>> but was thinking maybe lots of aquariums and fish tanks as a
>> possibility.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Gruendg@...
>>> To:
[hidden email]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 6:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Water as an emf block
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In einer eMail vom 23.12.2006 02:02:52 Westeuropäische Normalzeit
>> schreibt
>>> denom@...:
>>>
>>> Recently we had a snow storm here. I have an atomic clock that
>> stopped
>>> working during the storm. It just stopped at 4:00. Then after the
>>> storm was over it began working right again. This tells me that
>> the
>>> storm was putting up enough interference that it was blocking the
>> signal
>>> from somewhere in Colorado which is where I think it comes from.
>> Also I
>>> notice when there are several inches of snow on the roof I feel
>> better.
>>> All the shielding I've put up I have not been able to stop the
>> clock
>>> from working yet. Somebody needs to invent a double pained window
>> that
>>> can contain water to block the emf's.
>>>
>>> This is really good news. What is needed i a layer of water about
>> 1 inch
>>> thick, to block that radiation, that causes the health problems.
>> Experimenting
>>> with elektroacupunkture I have found this. You can also see this
>> on trees
>>> especially in autumn near base stations. The leafes on the side
>> of the base
>>> station look different than those on the other side, even if they
>> get nearly the
>>> same sunshsine. This shows best on cherry trees. Measuring the
>> negative load
>>> via electroakupunkture you will also find the leafes on the side
>> of the base
>>> station much more negative than on the other side. A friend of
>> mine, who
>>> had between his house and the base station some apple trees
>> experienced in
>>> summer time less sleeping problems than in winter time, when
>> there were no leafes
>>> on the trees.
>>>
>>> But on the other hand, using the usual metallic shielding, only
>> the
>>> measurable radiation is diminished, the Tesla waves that are
>> responsible for the
>>> negative health effect, pass this kind of shielding; but very
>> strangely they are
>>> turned positive, measuring them with elekctroacupunkture. That is
>> the reason
>>> why ES-peope first profit from this kind of shielding and in the
>> long run find
>>> no lasting relief.
>>>
>>> Happy Christmas
>>> Dietrich Gruen
>>>
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