Posted by SArjuna on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Dave-Stetzer-s-comments-re-filters-performance-tp1542880p1542919.html

I feel no personal anomosity towards anyone in this group. However,
I will never remain quiet while people make false statements or accusations.  
If ES people are to be helped, we must have accurate information.

Charles wrote that he bought the filters he has from lessemf. He says that
he bought there
"the Stetzerizer meter and two filters.
The meter came prompt, but the filters came some months later.
They do not have a CE nor an UL marking on them.
On the front, there is a gliding cover (up and down) which only has three
logo's: Stetzeriser ®, Graham Stetzer, Original"

Shivani replies:
These are probably prototypes.  
If they did not properly fit your receptacle properly, then it was not
wise to use them. It would have been good to contact Emil at lessemf right
away to discuss this, and get the right model for your outlets.
Also, just two filters cannot handle much electrical pollution. One
buys one or two filters just for experimental purposes. Using two filters to
try to filter the average building is misusing them.
     
Charles also writes:
I find it typical, that especially you are threatening me. Dave Stetzer does
not take the trouble in answering himself.
It looks like that you have more at stake here, than Stetzer.

Shivani responds:
I have mentioned previously how overloaded Dave is. Today, for
instance, he is trying to reply to over 600 e-mails and finish a report, before
travelling out of the country. I have never met anyone who puts in longer hours
or more days. He works 7 days a week almost all the time, with very little
sleep. In fact, he has been hospitalized twice when he collapsed from
exhaustion.
This is not a person who is "not taking the trouble to answer himself."  
Dave's life is utterrly devoted to making a difference in the electrical
pollution situation, to save lives. He simply cannot do any more than he
already is. This is why I have volunteered to address questions, etcetera,
regarding the filters that arise here.
If you make false statements about someone's products you are engaging
in harmful and threatening activity, and should not be surprised if eventually
you are taken to task.

Charles also wrote:
Be also aware, that being armed with an Aaronia *screwdriver* and an
Electrosmog Detector, is no guarantee for being or posing as a building
biologist, nor for having measuring knowledge.

Shivani replies:
You imply that I am posing as a building biologist. I clearly am not,
so why do you say this?
Regarding measuring knowledge, you and I disagree about what is
important. You are interested in reading field strengths very precisely.I am
interested in identifying and protecting people from HARMFUL FREQUENCIES.
Unfortunately, many baubiologists assume that grounding everything as
much as possible will improve their clients' situations, when in fact this often
brings in more harmful frequencies. The public needs to be aware that
baubiologists in general misunderstand the cause of the harm.    

Charles also says:
As I told you before, the claims you place on your website regarding the
*screwdriver* cannot be upheld; the fact that you continue to advertise as
such, proves that you do not know your stuff.
It is a nice gadget, but not a serious measuring instrument.
When LED's flicker, that does not mean, that they are telling the truth.

Shivani responds:
The Aaronia Multidedektor II Profi meter is very useful for identifying
electric fields of the high frequencies that are health-damaging. That it
is not able to report the field strength with great accuracy is not so
relevant. It would be nice to have that feature, but it's not worth the much bigger
price., which most people cannot afford. The meter does enable users to
identify the health-damaging HIGH FREQUENCY ELECTRIC FIELDS in their personal
environment.    
This meter has just gone out of production, however. We hope to
encourage a manufacturer to create something similar, with the low/high freq.
breaking point at the more useful frequency of 1.7 or 2 kHz, which is the point at
which all the energy of the RF is absorbed internal to the body. (We have
good resistance to lower frequencies, such as 50 and 60 Hz, which do not create
ES symptoms.)

Charles also writes now:
But I am not awaiting answers from you nor fom Stetzer anymore.

Shivani replies:
You cannot just drop out of the conversation you started, without
backing up your claims - unless you want to lose all credibility in this group.

You wrote:
"I have reports from the German company Bajog, who have calculated and
tested, that raising the number of capacitors (filters) can cause
unwanted resonances, by which other electrical equipment can get damaged.
By raising the capacity of 200 uF and a net impedance of 0,5-1,2 Ohm
(praxis value), the critical resonance frequency can be 180 Hz, which is the
3rd
harmonic.

So I asked:
Is this last sentence from Bajog? You imply so, but do not actually say so,
so it's not clear.
Is this statement supposed to apply to using the Stetzer filters?  
It isn't even possible to get 200 uF (microfareds) with the Stetzer filters.
The European model of the filters is 15 uF. No number of them will = 200 uF.
Please provide a copy of the Bajog report. If they, or anyone, believe
the filters are harmful, they should have contacted the CE people, who
certified the filters.
If anyone ever shows by genuine test any real problem with the Stetzer
products, Dave Stetzer should be notified immediately. If people keep spreading
false information about the filters, they may
soon be talking to a lawyer. This is a serious offence.

I ask once again for your response to the above questions. Whom are you
quoting? If Bajog did a study involving Stetzer filters, let's see it.

Regards,
Shivani


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