Re: Dave Stetzer's comments re. filters' performance

Posted by charles-4 on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Dave-Stetzer-s-comments-re-filters-performance-tp1542880p1542899.html

The Filters I bought, were specifically asked for use in the Netherlands and
Belgium.
I had to wait for several months before they came.
There is NO CE mark whatsoever.
The two housing halves are just clipped together.
With your hands, one can easily open the housings, without any tools.
Just with your fingers.

If these filters were CE approved, they should be marked so, which is NOT
the case.
So, I regard them as NOT CE approved, and therefore not suitable for the
mainland of Europe.
Seen the manco's, I cannot imagine that they are CE approved.

Be aware, I am not talking about the american version, because I do not know
these.
I only speak about the ones I ordered and paid for, for use in the Benelux.

I can also state, that the back has those 2 round thin contact pins.
But the front has 8 (eight) openings, among them typical english holes.
One filter has only the two round openings connected; the other one has also
the two flat english pins connected.

So, with one filter, one goes from 2 round pins to 2 round opening.
With the other, one goes from 2 round pins to 2 round pins and also 2 flat
english pins.
No grounding pins.

I still think that they are not safe according to our standards.
Selling them here is an offence in itsself.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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Subject: [eSens] Re: Dave Stetzer's comments re. filters' performance


> Charles wrote:
> "I have reports from the German company Bajog, who have calculated and
> tested, that raising the number of capacitors (filters) can cause unwanted
> resonances, by which other electrical equipment can get damaged.
> By raising the capacity of 200 uF and a net impedance of 0,5-1,2 Ohm
> (praxis
> value), the critical resonance frequency can be 180 Hz, which is the 3rd
> harmonic.
>
> Shivani responds:
> Is this last sentence from Bajog? You imply so, but do not actually
> say so, so it's not clear.
> Is this statement supposed to apply to using the Stetzer filters?
> It
> isn't even possible to get 200 uF (microfareds) with the Stetzer filters.
> The European model of the filters is 15 uF. No number of them will =
> 200 uF.
> Please provide a copy of the Bajog report. If they, or anyone,
> believe the filters are harmful, they should have contacted the CE people,
> who
> certified the filters.
> If anyone ever shows by genuine test any real problem with the Stetzer
> products, Dave Stetzer should be notified immediately.
> If people keep spreading false information about the filters, they may
> soon be talking to a lawyer.
> This is a serious offence.
>
> Charles wrote:
> I have bought 2 Stetzer filters in the european design, and I am not
> satisfied with them.
> The contact pins, which are too thin for our european wall socket, do have
> already black burn marks on them.
> When one places these filters in a wall socket, they *hang*.
> The housing is not safe; the connection of the two halves is too weak.
> The connectors inside which connect through to the outside, are not safe.
>
> Shivani replies:
> You need to use the filters made for the country you want to use them
> in. There are several 220 models, made for different countries.
> (Different
> ones, for instance, for Russia, Kazakhstan, the UK, Korea, etc.) The
> pins
> are the right sizes for the country they are designed for, and should not
> be
> used elsewhere. This is common sense.
> The European models of the Stetzer filters are all CE approved.
> (Similar to UL listing in the US.) They could not be so listed if the
> pins were
> the wrong size, they were able to cause fires, etcetera.
>
> Regards,
> Shivani Arjuna
> www.LifeEnergies.com
>
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