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URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Re-Quantum-Products-devices-tp1542572p1542608.html
Marc and Vinny,
There wasn't anything in Shivani's post that said not to try "gizmos",
only a protocol which begins with trying to understand and clean up
one's EM environment. Shivani was pointing out that neglecting
environmental hygiene then trying to rely solely on "gizmos" to make
things better is illogical. If someone's asthma is triggered from
airborne particulates in the house, it makes sense to filter the air
in your house instead of just relying on an inhaler or a "gizmo".
Marc, Shivani did not say she believed that gizmos work only by
placebo effect. She just stated that people who are less sensitive
might have a better chance at profiting from placebo effect. This
does make sense since those with high sensitivity many times don't
have the luxury of mitigating their greater symptoms to a manageable
level just with optimistic thoughts.
Marc, we read in your posts that you are sensitive to EM. But in all
fairness, you're at the very low end of the sensitivity spectrum with
all the things you're able to withstand on a day-to-day basis. That's
great for you and I hope it stays that way or improves. But your
comments and approach sometimes imply that you don't understand what
it is like to have live and cope with intransigent, long-term EHS.
Sometimes those with this kind of ES are stuck and can't go out
without being strongly affected by the electrosmog, no matter what
they try to help themselves with. So, yes, in many cases the answer
is that they can't go somewhere no matter how much that possibility is
feared or denied by others. And those who have the health to go out
and about could try being a little more kind than aloof in their
blessing of health.
Btw, Vinny, would you mind sharing with us some of the "deeper
underlying disturbances or deficiencies" you keep alluding to? We
could all do with more illumination and help in eliminating these.
cheers,
Yunijo
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[hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > The first thing an ES person needs to do is thoroughly assess
> > his/her exposures using proper meters, then undertake remediation
> > that cleans up his/her personal EM frequency environment in a
> > meterable way.
>
> Well, that's great if you spend all day stuck at home. What
> about folks who are "out and about"? What do you do at
> the office? At the supermarket? At the airport? Be
> miserable? Don't go there?
>
> The "gizmos" are quite useful for enviroments where
> shielding and conventional remediation aren't practical.
> And the mistaken belief that "gizmos" work by the placebo
> effect is about as bad as the mistaken belief that
> ES does not exist.
>
> Marc
>