Posted by Vinny Pinto on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Re-Quantum-Products-devices-tp1542572p1542580.html

Hi Charles:

Thanks for your note. . . You wrote, in part, in your recent letter
(below) the following:
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The radiation of elektrosmog sources is one thing.
The biological working of our body is another.

Many *things* which are claimed to neutralize or harmonize the radiation are
NOT doing that.
I have investigated many *things*, but measurements did not show any
alteration in the radiation levels of the elektrosmog sources...
~~~~~~~~~~~

I wish to offer here a bit of fine-tuning -- from my perspective as
an electronics engineer, scientist and intuitive -- as we seem to be
touching upon a matter which causes some considerable confusion for
many people with ES/EHs and also for many otherwise-healthy people
who are interesting in acquiring "electro-protective" devices as a
prophylactic measure to ensure continued health and vitality. And,
there is even some confusion (perhaps deliberate!) about this matter
of "reducing EMF fields" on some (but only a few) of the vendor
websites which market these products.

Charles, I agree fully with you that NONE of the great many
protective field effect or area treatment devices available on the
market actually reduce readings of the magnitude (i.e., strength) of
E-fields, H-field or B-field (magnetic field), or EMF fields on EMF
survey meters (i.e., single-field meters, EMF meters, trifield
meters, magnetometers, spectrum analyzers, etc.) Of course, it IS
true that conductive EMF shielding fabrics and metals -- or a
complete Faraday cage (!!!!) -- as sold by some vendors, can indeed
lower such measured field strengths greatly, but for the purposes of
this letter, we are not focusing on such passive shielding tools, but
rather only on field effect or area treatment devices which claim to
somehow ameliorate some or all of the harmful effects of EMF fields.

So, the reality -- much as I explain at some length about my Coherent
Space Quantum Coherence devices on my website -- is that these area
treatment devices do NOT reduce the magnitude (i.e., strength) of the
actual electric (E field), magnetic (H field or B field) or EMF field
itself, but rather, they claim to remove some or all of a subtle
quantum-level incoherent chaotic "noise" which often rides on (i.e.,
is superimposed upon, or accompanies) such fields produced by manmade
systems (i.e., the power grid, the landline phone grid, the cellular
network grid) or devices (i.e., electrical and electronic devices,
motors, etc.) Indeed, I note that a few vendors/producers of such
products -- including the Quantum Products sites (i.e.,
www.quantumproducts.com and www.natural-stress-reduction.com and the
explanations by Dr. Srivinisan and Dr. Rubik on the Clarus websites
--actually employ a language very similar to mine when describing the
possibly-harmful subtle effects of EMF fields. So, the successful
devices in this field -- that is, the ones which do succeed in part
or in full in removing this harmful chaotic quantum noise from the
manmade EMF -- DO NOT actually reduce the magnitude of the electric
fields, magnetic fields or EMF fields in themselves, but RATHER, they
reduce or eliminate the incoherent chaotic quantum-level (i.e.,
subtle energy) noise which often "rides on" such fields from manmade
systems and devices. Since this chaotic quantum-level noise often
produces what I will call "perturbations" or "disturbances" in living
organisms (i.e., people, cats, dogs, microbes, hapless space aliens,
etc.) and in manmade electronic equipment and systems, we will --
when we use one of the better area treatment devices -- often see
improvements in the viability, vitality and functioning of people,
dogs, cats, hapless space aliens and electronic equipment when they
are within the effective radius of treatment range of such a device.

And yes -- and this is where I address Charles's assertion that these
area treatment devices also affect people directly -- if and when our
bodies are within range of such protective devices (ahem... the ones
which work effectively, that is...!), the devices may also have a
similar cohering effect upon the quantum-level processes (i.e.,
subtle energies) in our bodies as well. And, this is where matters
can get a bit sticky, for... if the body of a person or animal has a
lot of accumulated chaotic incoherent subtle energies, along with
accrued damage from exposure to such incoherent energies over many
years, then, as these bodily energies are gradually cohered, the
person or animal may -- from my perspective -- experience some
temproary and interim cleansing symptoms, aka detoxification
symptoms, such as headaches, flu symptoms, rashes, frequent
urination, buring urine, increased body odor, diarrhea, etc., and at
times, these temporary symptoms may become rather irritating or
annoying in themselves!

Thus, we end up with the paradox that many of these protective field
effect devices appear to work quite well for persons who are already
in a good state of health and coherence, i.e., leargely-healthy
persons with only very very mild negative responses to EMF, but these
same devices may appear -- at first glance -- to be grossly
ineffective or even harmful (i.e., due to the sudden onset of
cleansing symptoms or detox symptoms) for users who have moderate to
strong ES/EHS or MCS or other chronic diseases. This is, of course,
due to the fact that these people in the latter group may not only
have deeper underlying problems in the body/mind/spirit which tend to
produce ES/EHS (or MCS, etc.) as a symptom, but due to the fact that
they bear much higher levels of inner toxins and incoherent fields,
they will also often experience some very unpleasant temporary
cleansing (detox) reactions when exposed to these devices!

And, to some degree, since none of us are perfectly healthy, and
since ALL of us who live in modern society bear some degree of levels
of inner toxicity and accumulated incoherent quantum-level
information, due to (ingestion of) modern food and water and due to
chronic lifetme exposure to manmade EMF and the chaotic fields riding
upon it, almost all of us will at times experience at least brief and
transient minor cleansing symptoms when first exposed to such
"coherence" devices which help to ameliorate the incoherent choatic
quantum-level "noise" which accompanies most manmade EMF (and even
some so-called geopathic fields from natural sources as well.)

with care,
--Vinny

At 04:12 AM 10/12/2006, you wrote:

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