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Hi Marc:

Thanks for your note. Comments below!

At 12:20 PM 8/28/2006, you wrote:
Yes, ove the years I think that I have gotten a pretty good sense of
what is a detox reaction and what is simply distasteful or toxic, and
more and more, I find that the intuitive sense can also tell me.
However, in general, if the symptoms last a short time, such as a
couple of days to perhaps three weeks, and if they finally wind down
leaving me feeling better than before, then I feel that it was
usually a detox symptom. Strangely, there are some raw diets out
there where the self-appointed "diet gurus" (usually rigid
fundamentalists) claim that an adherent will undergo seriuos and
painful detox symptoms for the first 30 to 45 years, or longer. One
such guru has recently publicly announced that his own detox, which
he had orignally announced would last for 33 years, will now last for
45 or more years. To me, this is insanity!

>The items from Quantum Products certainly caused me some initial
>fatigue, nausea, etc. I initially noticed this with two of their
>power strips plugged into outlets in my house. Later when I got
>the stronger items such as the Quantum Pro, I found that the
>detox symptoms never fully went away (not even now, 5 years later),
>but I certainly find it beneficial in short bursts at the
>lower settings.

Interesting!

Interesting... thanks!

>Certainly there have been products that have provoked no
>initial detox reaction. However, these products seem to
>have produced no noticeable EMF protection effect either
>(e.g Clarus Q-Link, Bioelectric Shield, Teslar watch).

Well, the Clarus technology is a bit interesting. The vendor admits
that the device is an intent-based radionic-imprinted device, and
they state in their marketing material that the primary purpose of
the pendants is to amplify the paterns of the biofield/aura, to make
it more resistant to any external insults or stresses. This is very
different from the quantum smoothing devices, which largely ignore
the biofield and aura, except to the extent that a person (who will,
of course, "own" and aura/biofield may occupy the space enveloped in
the area treatment.

I have an acquaintance who is a very good clairvoyant, and he reports
that of all the devices he has ever been given to test -- and there
have been many (no, has not yet tested mine) -- he has found, using
his clairvoyant vision, that only the Clarus pendant instantly
improves and strengthens the aura of the wearer, although he concedes
that this does not necessarly mean that the Clarus pendant helps to
protect the wearer against EMF stresses. In fact, he reports that
many of the pendants and larger devices which he has been sent by
other vendors -- including some very high end pendants selling in the
$700 to $2,500 price range, and some area devices selling in the
$1,000 to $5,000 range, have instantly felt so toxic or so harsh that
he literally had to immediately walk them across the house and stash
them somewhere FAR away from him. I have asked him if some of this
could be due to detox (he is very famliar with detox) but he does not
seem very convinced that this is why those devices simply felt "bad"
to him. In fact, he has been given some highly touted and very
expensive devices to test -- again using his clairvoyant sense and
some intuition -- and has felt that they offered no benefit or were
harmful. Now, the funny thing is that he admits that some of the
devices which he has nixed are devices which friends and
acquaintances of his love very much, and feel that they are helping
them very much. And, vice versa, even though he "approves" of the
Clarus pendants, we both know people who feel no beneficial effects from them.

I assume that this dissonance and contrast is due to individual
response across persons to variuos devices, but it may also be due to
some particular "slant" or flavor of his clairvoyant gift and
intuitive gift. In my case, I am a pretty good intuitive, and I have
been presented with many devices over the years by people who were
very enthsuiastic about them, and my inner sense instantly said
either "No, no effect, do not bother" or "No, very little effect, not
worth it", and yet I had friends or acquaintances who loved the
devices (some of them very pricey.) On the other hand, there have
been devices on the market which I felt were quite solid and
beneficial, and yet some friends and acquaintances found little or no
benefit from them.

And, while on the topic of Clarus pendants, one funny and brief
Clarus Qlink story: I mentioned earlier that I have owned a Clarus
Qlink pendant since 1991 or 1992, and have owned and used (in my home
office) the Clarus clock and power strip since 1991 or 1992, although
I have noticed little effect from them. In 1999 or 2000, I purchase a
new Qlink pendant as I had lost the original pendant. With this new
pendant (a newer technology, according to Clarus), I found that I
could not wear it for more than an hour without feeling what felt
like a "harsh" effect; my intuition told me that this was not a detox
and that the effect was undesirable. Interestingly, after three years
of ingesting lots of EM-fermented (beneficial microbes plus
antioxidants produced by them) products and witnessing some nice
health improvements due to that, I suddenly found a few months ago
that I could not wear the QLink pendant without any of my former
complaints, and that it seemed to help me a bit as well.

>Since I haven't kept good notes, I can't really even
>say at this point how many devices I've tried (I'm sure
>that it's well over 30). I'd say that less than half
>have caused a detox or bad reaction, while more than
>half appeared to do little to nothing.

About the same here, and some felt downright toxic...

>As for the "longest period" of detox, I can't really
>say on that, as I usually back off or discontinue anything
>that is causing a long-term detox reaction.

Yes, my own limit is about 3 to 3.5 weeks, and afte that I tend to
back off, even if my intuition continues to assure me that it is only detox.

For me, water and lots of antioxidants, particularly in the form of
EM microbial liquids, seem to help a lot. Sleep also helps!

> > Have you ever experienced detox effects such as
> > blurred vision or heaviness, or diffulty in drawing a
> > deep breath, coupled with intense fatigue?
>
>I've certainly had difficulty in getting enough
>oxygen, although an oxygen supplement like Cellfood
>gets me through that problem. I can't recall
>blurred vision, although that sounds like a symptom
>of mobilized toxins.

Yes, this is one is starting to surface among some users of my
devices -- myself included -- who had lots of mercury in their bodies
at one tie.

>My advice is to simply not overdo it.

Exactly!

>I choose to
>keep myself at "just the edge", where I still
>feel good, but I know that if I do just a little bit
>more, then I'll start feeling bad from the detox.
>This keeps me functional, but the downside is
>that it seems to be never-ending... I've been
>doing this "low level detox" for 6 years and
>counting...

Ouch! I have been far luckier -- my detoxes have ben infrequent and
never last more than a few days to a few weeks at most. If I were in
your shoes, noticing those same symptoms, I might wish to play with
ingesting some EM antioxidative microbial products, perhaps a
food-grade EM culture such as SCD's Efficient Microbes(EM) (
www.scdworld.com ; feel free to use my discount code of VP2004 to get
a 7% discount on product price), perhaps starting with one tablespoon
three times per day, and, if I had a history of health problems, I
would likely also take, for the first two months, another
EM-fermented liquid from SCD called Xtra(EM) (unsterilized version)
as well, as this contains some powerful electron shuttle nutrients
which can potentize the antioxidants in the EM and in the diet. And,
if I had a major problem with health and energy, I would likely
ingest a fulvic acid product for about four to six months, along, of
course, with some EM.

with care,
--Vinny




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