Posted by Vinny Pinto on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Howdy-and-Inquiry-About-EMF-Detox-Symptoms-tp1542122.html

Hi folks:

I just joined this list group yesterday, but I have been browsing and
searching the the past posts in the archives for about the past five
days. I am writing today to say hello, and to note that I am rather
impressed at the quality of most of the posts on this list group. I
offer my congratulations to the list group owner -- I run many list
groups myself, some of them quite large, and it is amazing to me the
number of trolls and flamers (and spammers) who regularly try to send
bizarre or inappropriate messages to list groups; in fact, I am
converting more and more of my groups to private, application-only
membership for that reason. . .

First, a brief introduction: I am a research scientist with a
graduate degree (Masters level plus some doctoral work, degree earned
in 1992) in the health sciences and also appreciable training at the
graduate level in several systems of acupuncture and Asian medicine,
and I am also a spiritual healer and intuitive. In fact, much of my
scientific research work in the realms of beneficial microbes and
antioxidants is actually guided by intuition, rather than by the
intellectual logical "mind". I also run a number of informational
websites and list groups on beneficial microbes (particularly EM),
raw food diets which include raw animal foods, sungazing and some
other fun topics. If you wish to know more about me (and I note that
a few members here already belong to some of my list groups) feel
free to check out my "home page" website at www.vinnypinto.us, which
kinda organizes the rest of my work and sites.

I am writing today to ask a bit about your experiences with EMF detox
symptoms, and I have already searched the current archives on the
group home page and read many of the past posts on this topic. Here
is what I am asking and why I am asking:

I have been doing occasional R&D in the field of EMF protective
devices since 1974, and have also occasionally used EMF protective
devices since that time, and, in fact, I was one of the first owners
of the Earth Resonance Generator (aka ERG, which used a tiny signal
generator (a UJT oscillator) running at near the fundemental f of the
Schumann resonance, at about 8 Hz) which Patrick Flanagan introduced
in the late 1970s. I have also owned three of the Clarus devices
since the very early 1990s, namely, the Clarus power strip, the
Clarus Clear Wave clock (one of the early models from 1991, using a
re-labeled Radio Shack digital clock), and the Clarus QLink pendant
(which I replaced with a newer model in 1999 when I lost the first
one...) I have never noticed any cleansing or detox effects with any
of these devices, nor with any of a half-dozen or more other brands
and types of protective devices (including the various Aulterra and
Etherium rock dusts) with which I have played since the early 1980s.
I have also NEVER noticed any significant detox effects with any of
the earlier generations of my own EMF protective devices which I
built and used in the years between 1975 and 2005.

However... When I designed and built the latest generation of what I
call my Coherent Space Quantum Coherence devices earlier this year, I
was rather amazed at the fact that in addition to some obvious
benefits which I noticed for myself such as having more energy and
focus each day (and this is something which I had never particularly
noticed with the three Clarus devices; the power strip and clock are
still running today in my home office area. . .), my wife Sue and I
shortly started to develop classic and temporary detox symptoms, such
as periodic fatigue, need for more naps, headaches, noticeable
increase in body odor, and even brief cold and flu symptoms. I have
had my share of detox and cleansing symptoms in the past, largely due
to early stages of acupuncture, complex homeopathy (Apex Energetics),
raw food diets or starting to ingest EM microbial/antioxidant
products (as I have discussed elsewhere on the web, I had some heavy
mercury exposures earlier in life, so detox symptoms were not
unexpected), but I was a bit stunned, as I had never considered
myself at all electrosensitive, and I had never experienced EMF detox
with ANY other devices.

For each of us (Sue and me), the detox symptoms -- which started on
about the third day of exposure -- passed within a couple of weeks,
leaving just the energy, calmness and clarity, and then we hit
another wave of even stronger -- but similar -- temporary detox
symptoms when I started running one of my negentropic (i.e.,
anti-entropic) field effect devices alongside the quantucm coherence
device. This latter wave also passed within two to three weeks from start.

Now, here is where it gets strange: I have since been guided on an
inner level to create one more type of device (much like the
negentropic field effect device, this is not primarily a quantum
coherence device, but rather a more specialized device which seems to
emit a beneficial bioenergy field), and amazingly (to me, as this was
totally unexpected), once I set up this device (it is called the
Violet Light of Peace) and it had been running nonstop for a few
days, Sue and I ended up enduring several weeks of very intense detox
symptoms, which started largely as brain fog and blurred vision, and
a feeling of not being able to take a deep breath, and then shifted
largely to fatigue and heaviness and increased sleep need, and the
symptoms are only now winding down after about three very intense
weeks. In fact, at three times during the past weeks, I grew so tired
of the intense detox symptoms that I briefly moved the device (which
has a radius of strongest effect of about 50 feet) for about 24 hours
at a time to a storage buildng on our property which is located about
90 feet from the house, just to get a break from detox! (I did this
despite constant reassurance on an inner level that the detox
symptoms were temporary and would pass, as I get a bit tired of
non-stop detox symptoms...!)

Since I have been marketing prototypes of some of my Quantum
Coherence devices to a small and select audience of experimenters and
researchers, I notice that I have been receiving reports from a
minority (perhaps 25% at most ) of the users of my quantum coherence
devices, reporting similar temporary bouts of detox symptoms.
However, even more telling, since I talk quite freely (in contrast to
most other sites) about EMF detox symptoms on my Coherent Space
website ( www.coherentspace.info ), I am starting to receive emails
and phone calls from users of other brands and types of EMF
protective devices who report that they seemed to notice detox
effects when first using their devices (i.e., those other brands) and
asking me if I believe that it is possible that those symptoms are
truly detox effects; many seem to have been particularly confused
because most vendors downplay or outright ignore such possible
temporary detox effects, and thus they were unable to receive any
answers or reassurance from their vendor. So far, the reports of
temporary detox seem to be coming from a few users of the Quantum
Products devices, the Clarus QLink pendants, and the SpringLife
Polarizers, although I have heard one or two reports of possible
detox effects from exposure to the Aulterra material (a mined rock
dust) also. And, interestingly, this morning I noticed that someone
(from Great Britain) who stumbled upon my Coherent Space web site had
gotten there by typing the term [Clarus QLink detox effect] in Google
search engine!

Anyway, after that painstaking history, here are a question or two
for you, if you will; I am not looking for formal survey-type
replies, but rather just hoping to start a bit of discussion and sharing:

1) What percentage of EMF protective devices which you have tried
have seemed to produce detox effects?
2) How long did the longest periods of detox effects seem to last?
3) Have you ever experienced detox effects such as blurred vision or
heaviness, or diffulty in drawing a deep breath, coupled with intense fatigue?

Thanks much in advance for sharing!

with care,
--Vinny


Vinny Pinto
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