Re: Is ES an allergy? (Explanation part 1)

Posted by Ligure on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Is-ES-an-allergy-tp1541432p1541496.html

Let me speak of allergies at a different level.

First of before getting to that level some explanation on how allergies
work is
in in order. There are two know pathways the immune system responds to an
allergen. One is immediate (i.e. a bee sting in some can lead to an
anaphylactic reaction, and in some even the smell of lobster or the kiss frolm
a boyfriend who just ate peanuts can kill them in minutes). The other pathway
is a gradual thing that the body can take on as if by taking on a load. It can
be compared to a cup of water. One allergen may fill the cup a little bit. But
the body's immune system can gradually process that amount in the cup over
time. But while the body is processing (metabolizing) that part you get
exposure to more of the same allergen or another allergen that causes the cup
to fill up some more. This can continue until the cup is overfilled. It is at
the point of overfilling that one shows symptoms. This is where there is too
much for the body's ability to handle the load. This is the point at which you
get the histamine reaction. The lack of a histamine reaction does not mean
there is an absense of allergic response. It just means that your body can
handle the load given to it. Now the body responds in a way ot get the
allergen/toxin out as best it can. The elimination pathways in preferred order
are bowels, liver, urinary, lungs, and skin. If you are seeing skin
inflamation
(in the form of eczema, psoriasis, acne, etc.) it is because the toxic
load was
too great for the previous pathways of elimination. This is why many receive
relief of their allergens (as well as some on this list who have tried it)
through doing cleanses of the previos pathways (i.e. bowel, liver, urinary).

Part 2 (the next level) coming...


Quoting snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Ligure,
>
> I wasn't able to reply when you first posted, but similar to what Ian
>
> said; I believe to be a true allergy, histamine must be produced,
> which is a reaction to particular amino acids.
>
> Chemical and emf reactions aren't technically allergies as far as I
> know, but that does seem to be the easiest way to communicate the
> problem to others often.
>
> Something I've been getting around to posting for months, seems like
> it might fit here.
>
> Even though these problems make us miserable (not talking true
> allergies here), I think actually it shows our bodies are working
> properly in that they are saying, "Get me out of here, this stuff is
> not good!" Like when you get some food, say milk or meat that is
> obviously spoiled, your body reacts, even if just by smell, that is
> not good, take it away!
>
> Problem being we can't take it all away, so need to find other
> methods of protection and avoidance where possible.
>
> The effects are there for everyone, but some don't realize it yet,
> others haven't hit their bodies toxic load yet to knock them upside
> the head. :)
>
> Freikanature posted a while back a link to a site designed to help
> people get away from it all as much as possible to allow the body
> time to heal, restrengthen. Looked like a great program, but for
> many of us, we are too sick to even be able to do the required
> learning and building to become that self-sufficient. Sounded like
> someone really put thought into the whole program though.
>
> I am not familiar with the names NAET and Bioset?
>
> There's lots of supplements to try, one that I've found most useful
> in preventing chemical reactions, and lessening emf is the mineral
> molybdenum. That is used in the Mu metal shielding you can get for
> pcs, and is used in tape decks, car radios etc. at times for reducing
>
> incoming static. My chiropractor had recommended 120mcg. I think it
> was 3x a day at the very start! I just went by feel as to reducing
> the amount over time. Been out for quite a while, guess I need to
> hunt some more down again. Back then I could find it almost nowhere.
>
> ~ Snoshoe
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>>
>> Ligure <reiki@...> wrote:
>> So in reading the recent threads I was reminded of some of the
> same
>> thoughts and descriptions around food and chemical allergies. I had
>> thought that they were different things until something someone
> said
>> made me think that they may be more related than I originally
>> considered. And that said I have a question for those that are
>> explicitly ES. For my background, I think I might be partially due
> to
>> my profession (Software Engineer) and excessive ES exposure. I do
> know
>> that when I get a new computer I am out for about a week while my
> body
>> adjusts to the change for instance.
>>
>> Therefore, I want to open it for discussion on "ES an allergy?"
>>
>> Some of my understanding on allergies (I am not an expert but I do
>> know more than many doctors because of family problems with food
>> allergies).
>> * Allergies are something you develop and can overcome. Sometimes
> it
>> is time based and exposure in both of these.
>> * Just being in the vicinity of the substance can cause you
> problems.
>> For instance there is someting called a muscle test that you can
> use
>> to determine an allergic response.
>> * It affects the blood and other portions of the body chemistry.
>> * Despite exposure, not everyone has them.
>> * From some of my research the main reason for an allergic response
>> lies in one's body overacting to exposure. Sometimes the metabolic
>> processes fail to do their job and the immune system tries to
> attack
>> the allergen.
>>
>> Those are very very high level I realize, but I don't have time to
>> write a paper on it. You can Google it and find information for
>> yourselves on allergies.
>>
>> Something I want to ask for those that have considered that ES may
> be
>> an allergy, have you tried the following:
>> 1) Avoiding exposure to see if it goes away by letting your body
>> become stronger?
>> 2) Tried desensitization through controlled exposure?
>> Those two are conventional medicine approach. The rest are
> alternative
>> (which I have found more successful at solving the problem more
> than
>> the system)?
>> 3) Tried supplementation of vitamins, mineral, herbs?
>> 4) Tried doing cleanses (i.e. liver, bowel, blood/tissue) through
>> herbal or homeopathic means?
>> 5) Tried getting dental amalgams replaced?
>> 6) Tried a direct allergy treatment through homeopathic remedies?
>> 7) Tried a direct energetic allergy treatment through NAET, BioSet,
>
> etc.?
>>
>> The latter I find has given the best results in the allergen
> problem
>> for folks. I do not know about ES and therefore I am posting here.
>>
>> I realize that many of you already use devices and personal items
>> (i.e. neclace) so I have not listed them.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>
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