Posted by
snoshoe_2 on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Garth-I-have-more-now-tp1541394p1541409.html
Wow, I'm offline a few days, and a whole book to read,lol. Very
interesting one though.
I'd like to try and put my two cents in, I hope it is one of my clearer
posts. :)
Some time ago we did a bit of a poll to see what might be in common
that started our problems. A number of us know it was radiation and or
chemical exposures.
For those who aren't yet certain, I'm suspecting it will be the same
when you are finally able to put the pieces together as you keep
looking back over what has happened, and results of them afterwards.
For instance how many dental x-rays have you had during your life and
were not given a lead apron? The majority of mine. The radiation
causes genetic damage, and the effects are cumulative.
Or did you ever move into a new apt. and/or have new carpeting and
experience a gradual worsening of symptoms, like frequent urination,
weakness, fatigue, etc.? I did. Not even counting the glues, and all,
the carpets can be highly toxic, and loaded with? you guessed it,
fluoride.
I said I'd felt close to figuring something out around then too. I
maybe haven't posted it clearly yet, but I believe that the above,
radiation of many types, chemical exposure, and then heavy metal
toxicity is the cause, for all of us. If we had none of that, and
still had the problem we would need to look at the genetic damage
passed to us by our parents/grandparents. Although we would still be
in the radiation soup, so that could be difficult.
I don't know if anyone read much in links I've posted at
fluoridealert.org, or the one recently about radiation sickness being
the real name for CFS, MCS, environmental illness, etc., because that
IS what it is.
As Evie said; "AHA". So this info. has been useful and helpful for some
here. I feel this group, if we will read and apply the things Tayloka
has put here, has just gone from about a 2nd grade level up to junior
high. :)
What we have been doing, and it is necessary, trying to protect
ourselves from the immediate detrimental effects is important.
However, the big picture, keeps getting bigger when you look at what
all is going on in the world.
Garth, I think it was you said you'd like to know what could measure
the emf of certain things? Isn't that possible with a Rife? There is
also a gadget by Patrick Flanagan that measures this with foods at
least, I don't know what all else.
(Here's a link to a page with the Hz frequencies for many of the
elements:
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/Non-ConsolidatedFrequencyList.htm
Fluorine itself is radioactive, as are other elements.
I realize we usually think of the problematic emf's being man made, and
so mainly they are, but isn't it perhaps a matter of degree that this
is being looked at?
Quartz can be a problem, it is for me at times. Yet it's very useful
in clocks, radios, laser, etc. As are other gemstones because of their
frequencies, vibration, emf, whatever you want to call it.
Even these small ones can be felt. A group I belonged to in the past
where many semiprecious stones were used to make orgone items, could
say that. The stone sodalite for example just "didn't go" with any
other combination of rocks for some reason, that none of us knew at the
time.
I have a nice chunk and tried it with turquoise, etc. It doesn't. Why
does it feel bad? It's radiation. It contains a high amount of
fluorine, if I'm not confusing it. Although many others contain some
as well, this one is high. So is it the radiaton of the chemical we
feel, or the element's own emf field, or both?
If anyone recalls, I've said it's been found, and personally
experienced, that the symptoms of being exposed to radiation (emf's)
and chemicals are similar in the way the body makes us feel, and
exhibits them. Problems with one is going to allow problems with the
other, our body only has so many pathways to deal with things, and in
this case the two are often intertwined.
Now about the wind.
Perhaps maybe the weather warnings aren't helpful to those in other
countries, but having observed the wind patterns across southern Canada
and the northern U.S. for maybe 3yrs. now, I can see how it could be
useful to know what is coming. Friend's on the west coast will be here
in a couple days. Out to Wisconsin in 2-3 days from here, etc.
Is the wind itself an emf? I'm not a weather person, so I will only
guess on it's own it is not, but we can't separate it from what it
carries.
Probably many of you know that wind from different directions can bring
different ions. From the east is usually positive and makes people
ill, or cranky. There's a neat little poem in an old primary reader
from maybe the 1930's, I've hoped to find again for years that teaches
this. Anyone know it?
Along with the ions we also have whatever else may have been added,
naturally or not: Nitrogen -cold, brrr, foot freezing cold, hydrfluoric
acid (fluoride),hot, hot feet, barium, aluminum, quartz, pathogens, and
on it goes. All these are going to cause biological reactions in how
we feel, and in how strong we react to the environment around us.
For instance if we know that cold, cold wind is coming, we can "shield"
ourselves by as much as possible doing what needs done outdoors and
about town previous to that. Or, if we have to go out, we can know
infrared garments may be more appropriate that day...
Somehow I am not making this about the wind as clear as I would like,
but really, it all comes down to ionization.
I think that is at least in part what Tayloka is trying to get across,
that the ROOT CAUSE to our problems lies in exposure to fluorine,
(which really is everywhere now, if you read about it), radiation, and
my own addition, the heavy metals, -being conductors, and also impeding
the bodies natural balance.
We need to know what to do, above and beyond what we are doing now to
avoid the "regular" exposures, as our NEW regular exposure to radiation
has multiplied in huge amounts. Here the wind again; it carries the
radiation from the wars in the mideast here. You may know from
watching weather for example on the NASA site, dirt from dust storms in
Africa will be carried over to Florida.
The DU that is being used over there contains guess what? Fluoride
again. So we get radiation from electric fields, magnetic fields, and
chemical exposure, all in one, they may just arrive at different times.
(If you're not familiar with the things they put in the chemtrails
worldwide now, that is something else to read on, and observe your
skies.)
A huge part of the problem in this being recognized, is we are getting
dosed in small amounts daily over years, so we may be diagnosed with
this, and then a couple years later, we are diagnosed with that, and
on, and on, and on. If it happened all at once, then it wouldn't be so
hard to figure out. It took me a couple years as it was to link
certain of my problems to the radiation overdose because outside of the
burning bones, I didn't see other effects immediately to hit me on the
head, so it went out of my head. :) They did start showing up in the
next month or so gradually, but I didn't recall it all till later.
Then as I get looking back, as I've referred to, I can see now how many
incidents go hand in hand, cause and effect.
I guess what I'm getting at is this: Yes, we need to keep doing what
we're doing to try and be more comfortable, but without learning how to
protect ourselves more, and better, it will in the long run be a futile
battle. Radiation poisoning will win. (Radiation meters around the
world by the way have been pulled, as they are measuring 8-10x the
normal amounts.)
Anyway, I think everyone has been very nice in this conversation, and
it sure has been interesting. I do go with Tayloka, that the things
she says are emf's are. It just may be out of what our current thought
of it is, but it all comes down to ionization. (The give and take of
electrons in every little electrical transaction we, and all nature are
involved in daily.)
So there ya go. :)
~ Snoshoe
--- In
[hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > I understand the your contention now, Garth. My apology. Instead of
> > giving abstracts, I found millions, since you have the background
> > in chemistry and physics I thought I would send you two sites for
> > standards and practices for measuring electromagnetic frequencies
> > of organic and inorganic mass (animal, plants, space, humans etc).
>
> I'm still wondering what all this has to do with electrical
> sensitivity? Sure, everything puts out some sort of electromagnetic
> field, but I don't think this group is for people who are having
> a hypersensitive reaction to the EMF produced by a blade of grass.
> This is more for people having problems with computers, power lines,
> cell phones, transmission towers, etc.
>
> Marc
>