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Hi, Christina,
I do not react to cell phones when they are turned off. Someone here suggested I use a lead lined bag to keep my cell phone in while charging it, as it bothered me while I was charging it. I have not tried that yet. (Instead, I charge my phone in an unused room on the far side of the house.) However, I still plan to try the lead lined bag when I locate one. (They are used to protect camera film.)
Would a lined hat work, like Andrew mentioned he used, for calling on the cell phone??? Would wearing a hat or "apron" type garment made of shielding fabric lining help Christina at work??? Just a question, as I only have ES with cell phone use.
Also, I used to have my computer monitor 6 feet away and used a remote keyboard. I could see the monitor well for most purposes and it was close enough to read, if I manipulated the display settings. I do not have ES symptoms from my computer, so I don't know if that would help you or not; I had this setup due to being bed-bound from illness. I now use a laptop, but now I am only online about an hour or two/day, so I do not have much exposure, anyway.
My best to you (and welcome!),
Diane
Christina R <
[hidden email]> wrote:
--- Andrew McAfee <
[hidden email]> wrote:
> Christina,
> Here is an email address for Charles Keen
>
[hidden email]
Thank you.
> I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a
> couple of years ago
> when I lived next door to the towers.
Mixed results? What was badd about it?
>
> It sounds like most of your problems come from over
> exposure to cell
> phones and computer screens. These are easy to
> remedy. Don't use a cell
> phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone.
Is an internet based broadband phone considered
"landline?"
Is there anything you can do when you have to use cell
phones and can't avoid it? How much does "limiting"
your exposure help? Would it help for me to turn my
phone off as much as possible (I have it on and right
next to me 24/7) I have one of those earphone thing
but never use it (poor sound quality) and also because
I heard that some of them actually make the radiation
worse. Is that true? Is there anything I can do to
the cell phone to make it stop harming me? I guess
the only thing I could think of to reduce cell phone
use would be to get calling cards and go to a pay
phone?
> Experiment with low radiation screens for your
> computer and limit your
> time on it. Back away as far as you can from it.
Back away from it -- oay that was really doable and I
just rearranged my cmoputer:
Before it was
9 inches to edge of keyboard (now 11 - moved
adjustable tray)
plus an additional:
5 inches to computer base (now 11.5 - shoved it back)
plus an additional
3 inches to front of monitor (now 4 inches, moved it
back too)
So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5. Is
that significant. It is almost one an a half times! It
seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!!
Also, I turned the power settings different - will
this help?
Changed "turn monitor off" to after 1 min
Turn hard disks off to after 3 min
go to standby - after 1 min
(will that help?)
Also would it help to turn off or unplug the printer?
The scanner?
Anything else "easy" to do as far as computers/cell
phones? (Since that is a really big thing for me as
far as amount of time on them.)
What about other electircal things? Like space
heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell
phone charger,
TENS unit (is this bad electrically? I use it for pain
and muscle stuff)
>
> Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get
> an RF meter than
> measures microwave/radio radiation.
Is the "trifield" meter okay to get for these uses???
You don't need
> to spend more than
> $100 to get the basics covered. You need to know if
> you are working and
> sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG. 0.00
> is the goal.
>
> You want as low as possible RF radiation as possible
> so you need to
> know when things are lower and confirm it.
>
> As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you
> quickly if things are
> wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip
> level, you have a
> problem. Get all the appliances like heaters, power
> strips, fuse boxes,
> etc away from you because they will create magnetic
> fields far in
> excess of what is healthy.
> Stetzer Microsurge meter
>
http://www.stetzerelectric.com/> can tell you how much excess radiation and appliance
> harmonics are
> flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters and
> power strips
>
http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html
> can significantly reduce these emissions along the
> wiring.
>
> As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years, I
> slept with a
> fabric wrapped around my head that had silver lining
> in it and it
> helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a
> shielded hat that I wear
> frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc,
> whenever I am around
> cell phones or wireless internet.
What kind of fabric did you wrap around your head? Can
you use one of those "silver blankets" that are sold
for keeping warm in emergencies? Or aluminum foil? Or
something else easily found in a store?
Shielded hat - does that protect? I read something
that it does (by the people selling it!) and also read
another thing that any of that doesn't help because it
is not "grounded"....any info on that?
Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a
problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes.
Also, would it help at all to wrap the cell phone or
computer in aluminum foil? Or to wear some kind of
"lap vest" - you know like the kind you wear at the
dentist when having X-rays.?
>
> Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using the
> meters and
> measuring how your body feels.
> There is much more and we'll get into that later.
> First thing is get
> some meters and cut down on exposure.
>
> I also believe that that body needs to be
> regenerated from being
> overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our
> food, air, carpet,
> walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems are
> taking a huge hit.
> I believe the first thing is to have all metal
> fillings removed by a
> protocol dentist,
I am lucky in that I have never had any metal
fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high
levels of mercury.
and then begin a slow and easy
> detox regimen while
> rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic
> foods.
>
> Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions.
> Andrew
Thank you for all your help.
>
> On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r wrote:
>
> > --- In
[hidden email], Andrew McAfee
> <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is where we need to get more specific. What
> are your symptoms
> >
> >
> > exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short
> term memory
> > problems, difficulty completing/focusing on tasks,
> feeling very
> > overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set
> the refresh rate to
> > the best possible and my computer at wor has a
> "glare screen" - that
> > seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor with
> a brim to help with
> > florescent lights (the visual aspect)
> >
> >
> >
> > and
> >> where do you feel that way?
> >
> >
> > Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would be
> at work and home.
> > Although I feel the same way on friend's
> computers. Also, I have the
> > same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced
> this by not watching
> > it, and if I'm around people who are; just being
> very far away from
> > the TV and not looing at it.
> >
> > To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in
> general because
> > I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better
> when, say, outside in
> > the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.
> >
> >
> >> Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms?
> >
> > I am guessing the main culprit is both the
> > (typical monitor work computer
> > (laptop)
> >
> > I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days
> for work.
> >
> > Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems to
> relaly visually
> > bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am
> guessing htis is more a
> > visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not
> sure if there is
> > anything I can "do" to the flourscent
> lights...They just get turned
> > on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the
> lights would also be
> > supplying other peopls' work areas....
> >
> > I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod"
> because I use a cell
> > phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around
> alot of "gadgets"
> > unfortuantely.
> >
> >
> > (like a tower nearby
> >
> > none that I know of
> >
> >> or your house wiring,
> >
> > I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it is
> something
> > specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about 6
> months ago, and
> > had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to say
> that a change in
> > wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there
> isn't
> > anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel
> the same way around
> > any other house I've been in.
> >
> > computer screen,
> > ***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.
> >
> >
> > cell phones,
> > *** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get
> eyestrain with it;
> > but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory problem
> stuff.
> >
> >
> >
> > etc.)
> >> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.
> >
> > Any specific "easy" ones for starters?
> >
> > Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind of
> protective thing
> > for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix
> wiring (I rent an
> > apartment so really can't make too many changes).
> I saw on the
> > lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that
> helpful? Is there
> > any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like
> one that I could
> > make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom, and
> sleep in? At least
> > that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for
> those 8 hours. I
> > looked it up online and was confused as to
> > 1. What material could be used?
> > 2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean
> if it is on the
> > ground it is okay?
> >
> >
> > Also, what type of protective personal shielding
> actually WORKS. I
> > saw on the less EMF how they have things like a
> baseball cap, etc -
> > but then read something else that something has to
> be completely
> > encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do
> that) for it to be
> > effective. So how do you do that as a person to be
> able to go
> > anywhere? I can't put a solid metal sphere around
> me! I also heard
> > something like if you put a sliver blanket or
> aluminum foil (you know
> > those emergency ones) around you or the walls in
> your home that
> > protects you? Is that true?
> >
> >
> > Also, years ago I was given one of those
> "pendants" from
> > ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF.
> Is that really
> > effective? It seems like it MIGHT be a little, but
> may just be that
> > it made me feel like I was doing SOMETHING about
> it.
> >
> >
> > What would be the easiest/cheapest way to be able
> to at do
> > 1. Create a place that I can sleep in with low
> EMF and go to to
> > relax/get un overloaded!
> > 2. Reduce the computer's EMF or shield myself
> from it.
> >
> >
> >> I have worked with Charles Keen at
> emfservices.com for having my
> > house
> >> diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.
> >
> > For some reaon, When I type this into my internet
> explorer, it
> > automatically closes IE. I am having this problem
> with pages that
> > have some kind of animation I think; for some
> resaon my computer is
> > doing this error with other pages too. Could you
> send me the email
> > for Charles Keen?
> >
> >
> > Thank you so much for your reply and for such good
> information! I
> > really appreciate it!
> >
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:16 PM, christina2005r
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow, thanks for all that infromation!
> >>>
> >>> Do you know a website or book that explains it?
> (Meaning practical
> >>> things I can do about it, not just "oh EMF is so
> harmful".)
> >>>
> >>> Also,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV,
> Radio, Cell phone
> > towers,
> >>>> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining,
> plastic film for
> >>>> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for
> walls, and various
> >>> other
> >>>> devices and objects that block or transform the
> energy in some
> >>> fashion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Is there any basics on what is the first most
> effictive thing
> > that I
> >>> can get started on? I know there are so many
> different ones you
> > could
> >>> spend thousands of dollars. What would be the
> "easiest" thing I
> > could
> >>> just do right away (and then do more elaborate
> as I learn more?)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In
[hidden email], Andrew McAfee
> <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not an expert and I have to begin the
> conversation with
> >>> splitting
> >>>> the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges, some
> of the lower end
> >>> which
> >>>> can be measured by a gauss meter and some of
> the upper radio or
> >>>> microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF
> meter (radio
> >>> frequency
> >>>> meter).
> >>>> Grounding has more to do with the electrical
> current running
> >>> through
> >>>> your house and body and by allowing the
> electric current to run
> > to
> >>> the
> >>>> ground so your body won't store it as much.
> There are many cords
> >>> that
> >>>> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall
> socket that can
> > allow
> >>> the
> >>>> excess electrical current or body voltage to
> flow away from you.
> >>> There
> >>>> has been also problems in some areas with
> energy running up into
> >>> the
> >>>> house from the ground in certain areas so this
> doesn't always
> > work
> >>>> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or
> an electrical store
> >>> and
> >>>> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see
> what I mean.
> >>>>
> >>>> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields
> at the lower end
> > of
> >>> the
> >>>> spectrum like those around wires, appliances,
> ovens, etc. These
> > are
> >>>> very difficult to shield against and
> fortunately diminish within
> > a
> >>> few
> >>>> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines
> outside your
> > house
> >>> may
> >>>> pervade your entire house so you are screwed.
> You don't want
> >>> anything
> >>>> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading
> through out your house.
> >>>> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most,
> 0.1 mG. There will
> > be
> >>>> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc.
> Most of these can
> > be
> >>>> fixed too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio
> waves can give off
> >>> higher
> >>>> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical
> wiring and
> > Stetzer
> >>>> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can
> help reduce that
> >>>> radiation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV,
> Radio, Cell phone
> > towers,
> >>>> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining,
> plastic film for
> >>>> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for
> walls, and various
> >>> other
> >>>> devices and objects that block or transform the
> energy in some
> >>> fashion.
> >>>> There is much to learn. Start small and
> experiment. Get some
> > meters
> >>> and
> >>>> learn for yourself is my advice.
> >>>> Good luck. There are some great resources on
> this list, meaning
> >>> real
> >>>> professionals and electrosensitives that live
> with this condition
> >>> and
> >>>> have tried 1,000 different things with some
> success.
> >>>> I walk with you.
> >>>> Andrew
> >>>> On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:19 PM, christina2005r
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to
> research it and am
> >>> getting
> >>>>> lost in all the information and don't know
> where to start.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I dont understand all the "grounding" wires
> and shields and etc!
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