Posted by Ian Kemp on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/EMF-tp1540535p1540564.html

(From christina2005r):

I am guessing the main culprit is both the typical monitor work computer
(laptop). I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work. Plus
the fluorescent lights at work. I am guessing also just general "EMF
overload" because I use a cell
phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around a lot of "gadgets"
unfortunately.



Ugh .. 12 hours daily on a computer and 4 hours on a cellphone? That sounds
a pretty high exposure to me. It was these sorts of levels that caused the
original "classic" ES problems identified in Sweden in the early 1990's,
where continuous high levels harmed strong healthy people. (Many of the
cases since then show far, far lower exposure levels damaging people whose
immune system has been weakened by major illness).

Something worth bearing in mind - electromagnetic radiation works on the
"inverse square law". If you get twice as close to a source, the radiation
level doesn't just double, it quadruples. So spending days a foot from a
TV/computer monitor or an inch from a mobile phone is going to give vastly
higher exposure than a mast a mile away or the general background levels in
a house. I would think that the Faraday cage shielding at night is going to
give only a small reduction in exposure compared with your daily workplace
exposure.

Symptoms like reaction to fluorescent lights and cellphones, and doing
better when walking in the woods (trees and water are great absorbers of
external radiation), sound like classic ES developing. It is not just the
light from fluorescents, but the particular frequencies they emit, that
affect many ES people; low energy light bulbs can do the same. Personally I
would say, for anyone with or developing ES, one minute on a
cellphone/mobile is too long. Once you have got the symptoms, there seems
to be a huge "hysteresis" effect - you have to go down to exposure levels a
tiny fraction of the original ones before things start getting better.

Also worth noting that cordless (DECT) phones give off high microwave levels
from the base station continually. We have to shield against our next door
neighbour's, as we can easily measure the levels coming through the wall.
Hopefully you don't have one!

Ian



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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
christina2005r
Sent: 12 February 2006 05:22
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF



--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your symptoms


exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short term memory
problems, difficulty completing/focusing on tasks, feeling very
overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set the refresh rate to
the best possible and my computer at wor has a "glare screen" - that
seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor with a brim to help with
florescent lights (the visual aspect)



and
> where do you feel that way?


Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would be at work and home.
Although I feel the same way on friend's computers. Also, I have the
same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced this by not watching
it, and if I'm around people who are; just being very far away from
the TV and not looing at it.

To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in general because
I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better when, say, outside in
the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.


> Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms?

I am guessing the main culprit is both the
(typical monitor work computer
(laptop)

I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work.

Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems to relaly visually
bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am guessing htis is more a
visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not sure if there is
anything I can "do" to the flourscent lights...They just get turned
on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the lights would also be
supplying other peopls' work areas....

I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod" because I use a cell
phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around alot of "gadgets"
unfortuantely.


(like a tower nearby

none that I know of

> or your house wiring,

I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it is something
specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about 6 months ago, and
had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to say that a change in
wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there isn't
anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel the same way around
any other house I've been in.

computer screen,
***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.


cell phones,
*** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get eyestrain with it;
but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory problem stuff.



etc.)
> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.

Any specific "easy" ones for starters?

Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind of protective thing
for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix wiring (I rent an
apartment so really can't make too many changes). I saw on the
lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that helpful? Is there
any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like one that I could
make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom, and sleep in? At least
that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for those 8 hours. I
looked it up online and was confused as to
1. What material could be used?
2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean if it is on the
ground it is okay?


Also, what type of protective personal shielding actually WORKS. I
saw on the less EMF how they have things like a baseball cap, etc -
but then read something else that something has to be completely
encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do that) for it to be
effective. So how do you do that as a person to be able to go
anywhere? I can't put a solid metal sphere around me! I also heard
something like if you put a sliver blanket or aluminum foil (you know
those emergency ones) around you or the walls in your home that
protects you? Is that true?


Also, years ago I was given one of those "pendants" from
ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. Is that really
effective? It seems like it MIGHT be a little, but may just be that
it made me feel like I was doing SOMETHING about it.


What would be the easiest/cheapest way to be able to at do
1. Create a place that I can sleep in with low EMF and go to to
relax/get un overloaded!
2. Reduce the computer's EMF or shield myself from it.


> I have worked with Charles Keen at emfservices.com for having my
house
> diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.

For some reaon, When I type this into my internet explorer, it
automatically closes IE. I am having this problem with pages that
have some kind of animation I think; for some resaon my computer is
doing this error with other pages too. Could you send me the email
for Charles Keen?


Thank you so much for your reply and for such good information! I
really appreciate it!
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >
> >
> > Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing
that I
> > can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you
could
> > spend thousands of dollars. What would be the "easiest" thing I
could to
> > the
> >> ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords
> > that
> >> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can
allow
> > the
> >> excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you.
> > There
> >> has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into
> > the
> >> house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always
work
> >> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store
> > and
> >> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.
> >>
> >> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end
of
> > the
> >> spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These
are
> >> very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within
a
> > few
> >> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your
house
> > may
> >> pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want
> > anything
> >> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
> >> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will
be
> >> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can
be
> >> fixed too.
> >>
> >> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off
> > higher
> >> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and
Stetzer
> >> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
> >> radiation.
> >>
> >> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >> There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some
meters






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