Posted by Ian Kemp on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/re-salt-lamps-tp1540185p1540207.html

Hi Mia,



Sorry, I wasn't sufficiently clear. By "chronically ill" I meant the group
of mysterious hard-to-diagnose illnesses which you quote - CFS/ME, MCS, FMS,
celiac disease, IBS and Crohns, and ES. . There doesn't seem to be a group
name for these, but I am increasingly convinced they are all linked as a
family. I agree it doesn't apply to the ones with other clear causes e.g.
heart disease, lung cancer, etc.etc.



As for mobile/cell phones, I believe that they are OK as long as they are
kept permanently switched off and only used in an emergency like the car
breaking down. The brief exposure one gets from using it then should
hopefully not be significant. My impression is that "triggers" that people
have reported have either been prolonged low-level exposure (working for
weeks/months/years with mobiles/DECT cordless phones/computers) or a brief
high-level burst (CAT scan, Oberon, severe X-ray overdose).



Ian



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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Evie
Sent: 18 December 2005 09:21
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: re. salt lamps ,blood brain barrier, neg ion water



Hi, Ian,

Which triggers do you especially suggest to avoid? I know my parents
bought me a cell phone for Christmas (to take in my car because it is 13 yo
and they are afraid I am going to break down in a snow drift or something).
I am not too sure I want the phone!

Unlike you, I do not see many similarities with MOST chronically ill
people. I do see alot of similarities among people with CFS/ME, MCS, FMS,
celiac disease, and ES. Also with some of the other digestive problems like
IBS and Crohns. One odd thing is that so many people with one of these
syndromes go on to have so many more of these syndromes. Like me--they tend
to attract more and more syndromes. I now know that the zonulin tight
junction problem is a source for the multiple syndrome issue. This has been
proven. Celiac disease causes autoimmune dysfunction (which leads to
further auto-immune disease) due to the leaky gut/tight junction problem. I
did not know, however, that anything other than celiac reaction to glutens
could influence this until I read here re the radio frequencies causing this
in rats. This should be monumental research and yet it is hardly known,
just as with the zonulin discovery for celiac disease.&n bsp;

I have a couple research articles, btw, which links diabetes directly to
zonulin protein defect in celiac disease, if anyone here wants them. If you
do, I will send them direct and not thru this list, due to it being off
subject. It might be after the holidays before I send them, depending on
how many here request and on how out of hand my schedule gets due to the
holidays. :)

It would be very interesting to know if the tight junction problem in ES
causes the same auto-immune dysfunction as celiac, thereby causing multiple
syndromes. In Sue's case, it looks like it possibly has, unless her ES is
instead a result rather than the cause of her multiple health problems.
Thanks for your input, Ian.

Happy holidays,
Mia

Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:
I agree 100% that lots of people with "chronic disease" of various sorts
have lots in common. We see many similarities with various friends with
these problems; some have developed ES, others haven't. We can definitely
all learn from each other's experiences. I would also suggest that anyone
with these types of chronic symptoms needs to be extra careful to avoid
possible triggers for ES. We wish we had!

Ian



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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Evie
Sent: 17 December 2005 21:27
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: re. salt lamps ,blood brain barrier, neg ion water



Hi,

I agree with you, Shoshoe. I have a condition that necessitates ingesting
more salt (orthostatic hypotension). I eat ALOT of salt; salt actually
gives me energy. On the bell shape curve, I imagine you would find there
are less who are like me, in needing salt, but none the less, I would not be
there alone. I, and people like me, probably would react favorably to salt
in any form. I guess this is one reason why we all have to try so many
supplements and fixes for our various health problems.

I do not have ES, btw; I am always careful to point that out incase
someone should forget. However, I did note, and was interested in the
recent list of articles on ES that one of the posters sent. There were a
couple articles that mentioned particular frequencies compromising the blood
brain barrier. And that is exactly what is wrong with people who have
celiac disease--a protein called zonulin goes awry and opens up the tight
junctions in the gut, blood brain barrier, and some say, the lungs. I never
cease to be amazed at the things I have in common with those of you here.
That is why I have stayed despite not having ES. I am not trying to say
that all of you here have celiac disease, btw. Just stating that there
appears to be commonalities between our disorders. And I do think that many
with ES do respond to salt and other supplements that I personally find
helpful. It would be interesting to find out if various fr equecies not
only influence the tight junctions in the
blood brain barrier, but also the gut (and lungs). That would explain why
many people with ES have digestive symptoms and also why gut dysbiosis is so
common.

On that subject, I wanted to write Marc to rethank him for the info he
sent me re Mega-Hydrin. I looked it up and was not able to take that
particular supplement due to it having sugar or sweetener in it (can't
remember which). I noted that there was a similar product called "Hydrogen
Boost", however, which I did order. I noticed a spurt of energy from that
product, but it didn't last long enough. I sent for some pH strips to check
my pH after taking the hydrogen boost, and did a search online to find a
company that sold those. When that company (Phion) sent me the pH strips,
they sent me a catalog of their products. They sold a product that
restructures water--increases the pH and adds negative hydrogen ions to the
water. I ordered that and it has REALLY been helping. I was sick for about
2-3 weeks from die-off--it was actually killing off gut critters and I could
feel it. Since then my energy has been increasing and I have been able to
cut down the amount of NADH I was
taking to less than half so far (NADH did the same thing, essentially, but
it was very pricey.)

Marc, you told me to tell you if I tried the negative ion water and it
helped. This is not what I originally wrote you about--I was asking about a
negative hydrogen ion water machine. However, this additive to water seems
to be helping so much that now I am definitely going to invest the
$1000-$1500 to try the actual machine. The water restructuring drops are
fairly expensive. It restructures 20 gallons of water for about $40. I
just tried the restructuring drops to see if hydrogen ion water would make a
difference for me. After the holidays, I am going to send for the machine.
If you have any info re a particular one that you have heard is good, I
would appreciate any info. I will let you know how that goes.

Happy holidays to All,
Diane

snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
I think we do need to be careful calling things fairy tales that we
don't know about too.

I'd just about bet everyone of us here has had people think we are
lunatics, liars, or living in lala land, because they haven't yet
felt the fields we do.

Perla is right, fairy tales mostly start out with some fact behind
them, even if gets distorted over time. Ie.. 3 little pigs, and
other wolf stories, King Arthur, etc.

Even if they haven't worked for some of us here,apparently all those
people who go down to sit in the salt caves are getting some benefit,
or they wouldn't be doing it. Perhaps, like I said before, it's not
just neg. ions, but some other factors.

Frequency of salt perhaps, or combo. of that with other conditions.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote:
>
> Charles recently posted someting very interesting about these
salt are
> killed by the electrosmog.
>
> From a distance of 200 meters from a mobile phone mast and then at a
> distance of 60 meters, only 50 % are remaining.
> The same goes for a cordless DECT phone at 1 meter to 15 cm; 50 %
wasted.
>
> Many years ago, we had some 3.000-4.000 negative air ions per cm3;
nowadays
> that amounts to 300-400 per cm3.
> In the vicinity of phone masts that number may go down to 100 and
even 80
> per cm3.
>
> The negative air ions work like an air police.
> They attach to dust particles, polls and virusses.
> Because they are in so little numbers, they can not catch all
virusses.
> So virusses can go freely through the air, many kilometers.
> See?
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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