Re: root cause of ES/experts

Posted by carazzz on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/root-cause-of-ES-experts-tp1540039p1540066.html

Hi Sayat,

First, welcome to the group. I agree with most of the responses (from Marc,Ian, Jane,
quaixemen, etc) to your original question. I agree with even those who seem, on the
surface, to disagree about root causes and the best treatment approach/focus. :-)  

In response to your question about why we don't take our search for a cure to ES "straight
to the source" (you mentioned power plants), at the risk of stating the obvious I'll point out
that our understanding of the very subtle, complex problem of ES is its infancy. About a
year ago someone (Glenn or Andrew I think) described this group as a makeshift research
laboratory for ES. We're both the scientists and the lab rats unfortunately. As long as the
medical/industrial/political establishment is determined deny this problem,we're on our
own trying to find remedies. Are these remedies painfully, pathetically limited? Sure. And
as long as the people who recognize and understand this illness best stay sick, our ability
to agitate politically for proper research and a comprehensive solution will be seriously
compromised. Would I like to march on the White House, PG&E, the American Dental
Association, and the World Health Organization? Write letters to the editoror a give
speeches around my neighborhood trumpeting the dangers of EMFs? Yup. Do I have the
energy to do this right now? Nope. Someday, I hope I will. And I'm gratefulto others
(including some on this list) who are enough recovered from ES that they are making some
of these efforts on our behalf.

In the meantime, as Marc pointed out, we come to this list to share our piecemeal
solutions that sometimes work for others in the group, and sometimes not. It may seem
very little given the magnitude of the problem, but this pooling of information has been a
lifeline to me.

~ Cara


--- In [hidden email], "Sayat Arslanlioglu" <sayatarslanlioglu@t...>wrote:

>
> My intention was not to start a political argument but the problem itself
> implies that something must be changed in the areas (electronic devices /
> electrical power networks etc.) where people make great financial power. So
> I accept that it indirectly turns into a political argument.
>
> I totally agree with you quaixemen. Your description of the world's current
> state is totally undeniable for me. But I want to keep up my hope. I don't
> know what, but I constantly feel that we should do something.
>
> Maybe a web wizard among ourself in this group can start a web campain over
> the net so that a large number of ES people (and even non ES people who see
> the problem) sign and maybe later it can be send to several authorities as a
> letter. And most probably it will be just ignored. But trying to find
> individual solutions, to my understanding, won't change anything planetwise.
>
>
> Sayat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Maral Arslanlioglu"
> <sayatarslanlioglu@t...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello people,
> >
> >  
> >
> > I have recently joined your email group and I was a silent watcher
> (till now
> > :-)) so you don't know me.
> >
> >  
> >
> > After that short introduction, please let me say that I agree with
> Ian but
> > also, another thing that I want to remark is that, everyone is
> trying to
> > save "herself" or "himself". I mean, what good is there to shield
> your
> > living room or your house or your body, when the environment is
> literally
> > full in an insane way of electrosmog of every imaginable kind? Why
> there is
> > no research on how to stop the "disturbing component" (whatever it
> is,
> > scalar waves or EM fields, anybody knows ? ) of electricity sources
> > (generators, base stations etc.) and why nobody tries to stop
> it "at the
> > source" ? This seems quite interesting to me. Even "big people" like
> > physicists or electrical engineers who claim to accept the problem,
> work on
> > individual-concentrated solutions. If the mobile base station could
> be made
> > "safe" somehow, or the hyroelectric power plant's 50Hz output could
> be made
> > "safe", nobody would be trying to protect himself. Does anybody
> know of such
> > a research or why there is no such an effort? Is it really
> impossible to
> > find the disturbing part of the electrical phenomenon and filter it
> somehow?
> >
> >  

> > Sayat
> >
> >  
> >