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Ian Kemp on
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The tricky question here is that some people do have an allergy to milk and
dairy products themselves - not just the possible "contaminants" in them.
Of course lots of nutrition books suggest that dairy products are a big
no-no altogether, though I think this is often exaggerated. However, for
some people, allergy or intolerance testing does reveal an actual
sensitivity to milk. Sometimes this is animal-specific. Sue had problems
with cow's milk, tried goat's milk as recommended by nutritionists and felt
worse. Later allergy testing showed that she specifically had low tolerance
to goat's milk.
For ES people, who in general seem to have compromised immune systems,
organic milk is likely to be better for you (and, as Cara says, taste
better) than "commercial" milk, as long as you don't have a dairy
intolerance. However, forgive me for being unconvinced that raw milk is
better then pasteurized. Pasteurization (heat treatment) was developed long
before modern chemicals were used on farms (and so was used on organic milk)
and gave health benefits by reducing the total bacterial load. One can
always top up good bacteria from other food sources, but if one accidentally
introduces bad bacteria into the gut of someone with a weakened immune
system, couldn't that be very damaging? I guess modern bottling and
transport methods are probably more sterile than old-fashioned churns, but
it seems to me there are arguments on both sides. Sometimes there seems to
be an assumption that "natural = good" and "modern/processed = bad", but
it's not always as simple as that.
Ian
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Subject: Re: [eSens] Question for Andrew re colostrum
I am glad that you are drinking Organic Pastures. The quality is
extremely high. I have never had that severe of a problem. In past I
have had intestinal action if I haven't been drinking it for a while.
My hunch is that he is doing deep healing and is rebooting his
digestive system. Even if the colostrum is old smelling it is still
good. I use it and raw organic milk to culture and have it sitting out
on the counter for days. Delicious!
I encourage you to call my brother Mark at Organic Pastures and talk
with him if you want more feedback or to talk with many hundreds of
others that drink his milk.
Do what feels right to you and your husband.
Andrew
On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Cara wrote:
> Hi Andrew, a question about your experience with colostrum: did you
> experience a
> "healing crisis" (Herxheimer reaction) at first? My husband has been
> drinking Organic
> Pastures raw milk and colostrum regularly for maybe a week or two, and
> yesterday he
> started experiencing chills, stomach pain/cramps and bowel trouble.
> Ordinarily I'd assume
> the product had gone sour without us noticing, but it tasted and
> smelled fine, and my
> husband's intuition (surprisingly) told him to drink more, not less of
> the colostrum. This is
> in spite of the fact that he was laid up with stomach pain all day and
> night. I'm just
> wondering if this reaction is common and how long it lasts.
>
> Cara
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>> What I do think is essential is RAW ORGANIC MILK products. These cows
>> raised on organic alfalfa and in green pastures and are extremely
>> healthy animals. Their good bacteria count is extremely high and kills
>> e-coli, salmonella, etc., and has essential probiotics for our
>> intestines and immune system.
>> Weston Price and Sally Fallon, Mercola all think raw milk, butter,
>> cheese, is essential.
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http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html>>
http://www.mercola.com/2003/mar/29/pasteurized_milk.htm>>
>> Here are health benefits.
>>
http://www.organicpastures.com/healthbenefits/>> Yes, this is my brother's dairy and yes I am biased.
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>> Andrew
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