Posted by Ian Kemp on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/FILLINGS-THANKS-tp1539463p1539498.html

Yep, most of this sounds pretty familiar. A couple of extra points to flag up.
1. Sue has been on myriads of supplements for years with virtually no obvious benefit (and considerable expense) It was as if nothing was getting through to the bloodstream. We have finally had a "leaky gut" test done and this suggests that permeability is high and nutrients aren't being absorbed properly No use putting in all the right foods if they just go straight through! IV drips of glutathione, fish oil etc seem to have been more successful as they bypass the gut.
2. Her sulphation pathway is actually not working - cysteine normal to high, sulphate very low. Therefore, conventional supplementation with cysteine, MSM etc doesn`t work for her because her body won`t convert it. Only discoverable by specific tests.
3. For the amalgam removal we went to a certified mercury free dentist who seemed reputable - but it`s now apparent that there`s a wide disparity of views and practices.
4. There is huge controversy about chelation methods. DMPS, DMSA, EDTA, NDF, ALA, all have their advocates, all have been claimed to give great results for some people, all have been reported by others to give real problems. May well depend on the exact metabolism of the particular person. It is very scary for Sue and all the ones she has tried so far have given her bad reactions.
5. The tinnitus was definitely initially triggered by the Oberon machine, but the root cause may well have been mercury which had got into the brain and was just waiting for something to start it off...

The snag with treatment plans always seems to be that there are lots of chickens, lots of eggs, and multiple vicious circles.
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Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Olsson
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: FILLINGS


Hi all!

Before I start ranting, I want to say that most of what I say is
gathered from the book Amalgam Illness by Andrew Hall Cutler. And
personal experience. My only motivation is better healt for all!

> My wife Sue probably would NOT have had electrosensitivity if she
had not had her mercury fillings removed.

RGO - This is common and happened to me too in that it aggravated
the sensitivity I already had. So now we KNOW its dangerous and
toxic. Since amalgam is an godsend gift for the diseasecare industry
I dont want it in my mouth. It causes a myriad of health problems
not connected to amalgam by mainstream doctors.

> So we would say, be very very careful, and think about what else
may be wrong with your body before you try anything major like
amalgam removal!

> 1. Sue became ill with various chronic illness symptoms, severe
headaches etc. Mercury seemed a likely cause.

RGO - Hadn't she removed the amalgam she would have been lost. IMHO.

> 2. She had her 4 amalgam fillings removed in the "approved" manner
with a rubber dam - but she thought it might have slipped during the
removal of the first one.

4 amalgam fillings is very little. She might be allergic. There are
tests to see if this is trhe case, MELISA, VEGA.

> 3. She suffered a burning sensation in the throat immediately
afterwards, many symptoms got worse and multiple chemical
sensitivity (MCS) increased.

4 Days after removal of the LAST amalgam filling DMSA can be taken
to hinder redistribution of mercury to the brain and lessen symptoms.

> 4. She had a scan with an "Oberon" machine (microwaves at 4 GHz)
which suggested liver problems,

RGO - Liver problems is common from amalgam fillings, but all organs
in the body is affected by the mercury.

> but also directly triggered tinnitus/buzzing in her head, which
has got steadily worse ever since. This is her main ES symptom and
is definitely exacerbated by power lines, plugs/sockets, computers,
mobiles/cordless phones, etc.

RGO - Maybe she hears a kind of ringing or highpitched tone too? How
many mercury toxic people have I met with those symptoms. At least I
dont have fingers enough to count them. DMSA detox and decrease
sensitivity. For the body to repair other things are probably
necessary too. (EFA, GLA, vit E, zink, magnesium, vit C)

> 5. Later specialist tests showed that her immune system was badly
run down, with 2 of the 4 "Phase 2 liver detoxification pathways"
not working - sulphation and glucuronidation (Gilbert's disease).
This had put too much load on the other pathways and as a result her
glutathione had got very low, leaving her with no resistance.

RGO - There are ways to boost the pathways, at least the sulphation.
You gave me the incitament to try this. The glucuronidation may
be 'genetic' they say, but is probably enhanced with the right diet
as is everything else.

> 6. IV glutathione and other drips have helped her and the MCS has
decreased sharply, but we are still left with the electrosensitivity
which is not getting any better.

Its possible that IV gluthation mobilizes and redistributes mercury
to the brain. Oral gluthaion does. The cells of the body manufacture
gluthation themselves. For this to take place there mustnt be a
deficiency of selenium, cysteine and whatever it were. Hrm, do a
search. Sorry.

> 7. She suffers a bad reaction if she tries to detox with most of
the standard methods e.g. alpha-lipoic acid, NDF. We're not sure
exactly why.

ALA, alpha lipoic acid MUST NOT be used until the fast-moving pools
of mercury has decreaseed by 80 percent or so. That is after 3-4
months after amalgam removal AND the correct use of DMSA or DMPS.
Mercury will be transported into the brain otherwise. This will also
happen if you take ALA in the wrong way. Do NOT take dmsa or dmps
IV!!! Orally every 3rd hour around the clock preferrably together
with DMSA and antioxidants. (ALA crosses the blood brain barrier and
therefor can detox the brain, while DMSA doesnt cross the BBB and
therefor cannot detox the brain or intracellular mercury bound
inside cells to microsomes, mitocondries and so on.) Microsomes is
the cells detox department, mitocondries is the energy factory.
Not only the cell has a cellmembrane but these guys too. Detox
these, heal the membranes. Fishoil, linseed oil, olive oil and some
oil with omega 6. Phospahtidyl choline. Did someone say GLA and
Inositol? Without detox it wont work. Mercury in the brain has a
halftime of maybe 25 years!

> 8. A neurological antibodies test has shown high IgM which means
that a problem has developed in the last year. This would either
have been because of the amalgam removal, or the Oberon machine, or
both. Net result - her autoimmune system appears to be attacking
the myelin sheath round her nerves, hence the ES.

RGO - Get the mercury out of the nervous system?

Btw, homeopathic detox mobilizes mercury and some goes to the brain.
This vastly increased my ES over a couple of months.

Chlorella has the same effect, but slower, as do MSM after a while
as do sulphur foods for many people. If you want a great time
listening to tinnitus, take a few drops of choriander tincture. Why?
It strongly mobilizes mercury but doesnt bind and excrete enough,
hencee into the brain and nervous system it goes.

> So we would say that before attempting any amalgam removal, try to
check whether the rest of your system is reasonably OK. If you are
low on key chemicals like glutathione, your immune system may not be
able to cope with the extra load imposed by amalgam removal.

RGO - Yeah, you can say that twice.

> However carefully it is done, with rubber dam and all recommended
precautions, there is always likely to be a transient high load of
mercury. Vapour is much more mobile and more difficult to contain
than the small amount of mercury which gradually leaches from
fillings.

RGO - My removal was done by a leading paradontolog and expert in
amalgam removal since 20 years back.

> In our case, we feel sure that if we had identified the liver
detox problems earlier, and either not removed Sue's amalgams or had
lots of glutathione first and then removed with a strict
detox/supplement protocol (though dentists disagree over which one),
she would almost certainly not have her ES today.

RGO - This is a very very interesting forum! I found it just now!
You cannot be sure that anything you had done had stopped her from
getting ES. But you can be pretty sure she will have less a problem
with ES if she detox mercury followin a proper protocol. This is
called chelating and is potentially dangerous too.

Roger






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