Posted by Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison) on Feb 09, 2005; 8:37am
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/incense-and-red-candles-EMF-disipation-tp1537992p1538039.html

I agree with you about the subtle changes in energies in a room that is
filled with incense; in fact this brings up thhe issue of there being
many levels of energies - with electricity being characterised in some
quarters as sub-natural, and therefore well-nigh impossible for the
human organism to absorb. So incense and other armomatherapy products
(some of these are fantastic) would I think have an effect on the more
subtle energies around humans and higher dimensions.......

I should also add that my theory re geopathic or earth energies is that
they are far more compatible with the human body, but that if they pile
up in the aura this can be very uncomfortable. A challenge to the body
will dissipate the energy.

Here is an excerpt from a lecture by the 20th century mystic and
philosopher Rudolf Steiner on electricity. Some of it seems rather
quaint and dated, but you'll get the general idea.

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from the 'Agriculture' lectures - 16 June, 1924.

In this excerpt, Rudolf Steiner is answering questions from farmers.

Question: Is it permissible to conserve masses of fodder with the
electric current?

Answer: What would you attain by so doing? You must consider the whole
part played by electricity in Nature. It is at least comforting that
voices are now being heard in America - where, on the whole, a better
gift of observation is appearing than in Europe - voices, I mean, to the
effect that human beings cannot go on developing in the same way in an
atmosphere permeated on all sides by electric currents and radiations.
It has an influence on the whole development of man.

This is quite true; man's inner life will become different if these
things are carried as far as is new intended. It makes a difference
whether you simply supply a certain district with steam-engines or
electrify the railway lines. Steam works more consciously, whereas
electricity has an appallingly unconscious influence; people simply do
not know where certain things are coming from. Without a doubt, there
is a trend of evolution in the following direction. Consider how
electricity is now being used above the earth as radiant and as
conducted electricity, to carry the news as quickly as possible from one
place to another. This life of men in the midst of electricity, notably
radiant electricity, will presently affect them in such a way that they
will no longer be able to understand the news which they receive so
rapidly. The effect is damp down their intelligence. Such effects are
already to be seen today. Even today you can notice how people
understand the things that come to them with far greater difficulty than
they did a few decades ago. It is comforting that from America, at
least, a certain perception of these facts is at last beginning to
arise.

It is a remarkable fact that whenever something new appears, as a rule
in the early stages it is heralded as a remedy - a means of healing.
Then the prophets get hold of it. It is strange, where a new thing
appears, clairvoyant perception is often reduced to a very human level!
Here is a man who makes all sorts of prophecies about the healing powers
of electricity, where no such thing would previously have occurred to
him. Things become fashionable! No one was able to imagine healing
people by electricity so long as electricity was not there. Now - not
because it is there, but because it has become the fashion - now it is
suddenly proclaimed as a means of healing. Electricity - applied as
radiant electricity - is often no more a means of healing than it would
be to take tiny little needles and prick the patient all over with them.
It is not the electricity - it is the shock that has the healing effect.

Now you must not forget that electricity always works on the higher
organisation, the head-organisation both man and animal; and
correspondingly, on the root organisation of the plant. It works very
strongly there. If, therefore, you use electricity in this way - if you
pour electricity through the foodstuffs - you create foodstuffs which
will gradually cause the animal that feeds on them to grow sclerotic.
It is a slow process; it will not be observed at once. The first thing
will be, that in one way or another the animals will die sooner than
they should. Electricity will not at first be recognised as the cause;
it will be ascribed to all manner of things.

Electricity, once for all, is not intended to work into the realm of the
living - it is not meant to help living things especially; it cannot do
so. You must know that electricity is at a lower level than that of
living things. Whatever is alive - the higher it is, the more it will
tend to ward off electricity. It is a definite repulsion. If now you
train a living thing to use its means of defence where there is nothing
for it to ward off, the living creature will thereby become nervous or
fidgety, and eventually sclerotic.


-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Coleman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 6:41 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: incense and red candles... EMF dissipation??



Yes it makes perfect sense. I like how you put it into words.

I often find relief from something I find nurturing, by focusing my mind
and
believing it is helping, rather than believing I just feel sick. It
seems
to be a survival technique - to continue building hope.

I also agree with your comment about incense. My observation about
incense
is that it may change the energy in a room so it is more comfortable,
perhaps cancelling or disolving bad energy, but also have doubt that it
could actually protect from external EMF. It may help as a nuturing
factor
to keep a positive mind, and build a stronger aura around a person to
defend
against EMF. So it indirectly may help protect from EMF, but won't
lessen
the actual level of EMF caused by a device radiating at my body.

Good thing we have all these amazing survival techniques to put up with
such
ugly problems. It is like we almost transform ourselves to make livable

places in space and mind.

Glenn

>From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: incense and red candles... EMF dissipation??
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:43:00 +1100
>
>This list seems to consist of two types of (ES) person:
>scientific/engineering types, and New Age 'alternatively' types. I'm
>probably more in the latter category, although I have great respect for

>scientific thought and method, and try to make sure that what I say
>stands up to scrutiny.
>
>With regard to 'red candles and incense': ES symptoms are caused by a
>physical, biological effect within the body caused by the powerful
>forces of radiant electricity and magnetism. We know a bit about why
>this happens, although not everything. We know that the nervous system

>has nerve pathways that conduct electricity, that consequently various
>cell functions are altered, causing changes to cell structures,
>function and efficacy. Knowing all this helps us figure out ways of
>healing and strengthening ourselves with supplements and specially
>designed devices etc.
>
>However, what has been said re 'harmonising' effects of incense are not

>explained in grounded (scientific) terms. I am one of those who am
>allergic to incense (but not pure Frankincense, which is helpful) - and

>I also find candles difficult to tolerate, no doubt because of the
>toxic smoke (although I love them). Also, EM energy cannot be
>'dissipated' by candles and incense, otherwise you would not be able to

>use your electrical appliances while they were being burned. This
>leaves the effects they are having on the person.  
>(body/etheric/soul/mind).
>
>A couple of things I have observed here. One, that feelings and
>thoughts can be soothed by whatever the individual finds nurturing, and

>which perhaps then engenders greater tolerance of the negative effects
>of EMR (body/mind connection), and two, that if biological problems are

>being caused by geopathic electromagnetism/stress, which I have
>observed overstimulates/overheats the body, then this means, in my
>experience, that an allergen (candles, incense) will then cool the body





 
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