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Re: Supplements made me worse but any effect is good

Posted by Andrew McAfee on Feb 06, 2005; 7:16am
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/sleep-disorder-and-bitter-taste-in-the-mouth-tp1537891p1537984.html

> Can you help me form this a list of supplements, or natural foods?
> These should specifically deal with flushing heavy metals out from
> the body, not just general feel good stuff.

There are many. Here are two that I have take for a couple of months
and seem to work for me.

http://www.herbalhealer.com/drchi.html
Dr. Chi's METAL FLUSH
This product has been tested and proven in China to reduce heavy metals
such as aluminum, lead, cadmium, mercury and copper. The great thing
about this product is that is DOES NOT deplete the your bodies good
minerals. It can also be safely given to children and elderly.
Ingredients: Smilax glabra, Sargassum, Allium salivum, Glycyrrhiza,
Chaenomeles, Rheum, and Glechoma
Directions: 3 capsules, 3 times a day for at least two months. This
product is safe to take as a daily maintenance to help prevent heavy
metal build-up. 3 caps once a day. For children: 1 capsule per 40
pounds three times a day for 4 weeks. Take on an empty stomach if
possible.
Large 350 mg. - 120 capsule bottle

and

VEIN LITE
(Improves Circulation/Memory Enhancer) - Improves Oxygen to the cells.
This outstanding formula of Chinese herbs has been proven by China and
Japans' Health Departments to have the capacity to improve blood
circulation and cellular oxygen levels. It helps cardiovascular
conditions and has oral chelation effects to remove heavy metals. It
also has the capacity to increase the brain's acetylcholine and
acetlycholine esterase levels which have been found to help senility
and relieve symptoms such as>darkened lips, cold hands and feet,
numbness of limbs, unhealthy complexion. This product should be used by
all cardiovascular patients with artery problems. Anyone with memory
loss or foggy thoughts. Anyone exposed to toxic heavy metals. Take one
daily or as directed. 30 packets. Regular $32.00

Andrew

On Feb 6, 2005, at 1:40 AM, hillelwahrman wrote:

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> Supplements made me worse
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> I would like to thank many of you who have responded to my earlier
> posting regarding metallic taste in my mouth, and sleep disorder. I
> did not reply since my condition has grown worse for some days now,
> and have been on a retreat trying to recover. This might sound
> funny, but I am at least glad that something has any effect on my
> symptoms, so to demystify this condition, and apply to it logic and
> reasoning. In other words, make sense of what activates it, and
> perhaps later on what might correct it. I feel good enough right now
> to write, and to sleep well, but still not back to normal.
>
> I have been taking some food supplements the past two weeks I have
> been telling you all about. The main is LIVAMAX which has in
> it "Milk thistle" and "Dandelion root", and also wheat grass. That
> got my body buzzing and awake (sleep disorder) and I could feel
> every cell and nerve in my body vibrating. It was a systematic
> sensations, all over all my body. I can't stop wondering if this is
> good or bad. Then the metallic taste in the mouth.
>
> After a few days I started to feel a pricking sensation on my face,
> WHICH I THEN REMEMBERED ACCURED WHEN THIS WHOLE ES syndrom STARTED!
> I now remember that my es started half a year ago when I got a new
> VDT screen to my computer, and my face heated up and lightly
> burned , and after two days of this, I got ES so badly I could not
> go out into the sun. I have reason to believe I was sensitive to
> chemicals from the new screen that have evaporated into the room,
> triggering this condition.
>
> During the months since my ES has developed the burning in my face
> has diminished, and so did my ES symptoms. Taking this food
> supplement now had re-triggered it, and my ES has gotten worse
> again.
>
> My interpretation of all this is that the supplements seemed to be
> stirring metals in my body, causing reoccurrence of old forgotten
> symptoms. chemicals in my body were stirred, mobilized, but are not
> flushed out.
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> I am therefore trying to compose a list of supplements and foods who
> would not only detoxify the cells, but will bind with the newly
> freed metals and chemicals in the blood stream, and get rid of them
> through the natural channels. I would like to go into a systematic
> regime if taking some of these, I'll need to choose between them.
> This is what I got so far:
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> 1. Activated charcoal
> 2. Psyllium husks,
> 3. Seaweed
>
> I suggest to prepare a list of these, and post them in the file
> section of this group. I will be slow at this because I cannot sit
> in front of a computer for too long. Even the external key board is
> bothering me with its low radiation. I also suffer from trigger
> points that give my RSI, known also as fibromyalgia .which I hope
> will improve too.
>
> Can you help me form this a list of supplements, or natural foods?
> These should specifically deal with flushing heavy metals out from
> the body, not just general feel good stuff.
>
> I feel optimistic, and also empowered by the knowledge I receive
> here. Thank you all for your contribution. If (once) I feel better I
> should find ways to find other sufferers here in Israel and help
> them out, We are still too alone,
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hillel
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> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
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>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:27:13 +0200, "Hillel Wahrman"
>> <whillel@h...> said:
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>>> I take a daily shot of wheat grass juice every morning
>>
>> I don't recommend wheat grass juice -- I think it mobilizes
>> too many toxins into your bloodstream, but does nothing
>> to get them out of the body. This in turn causes adverse
>> reactions.
>>
>> And I especially don't recommend taking it on an empty
>> stomach -- better to combine it with lots of protein'or
>> fiber, so that the toxins can bind to these and be taken
>> out of the body.
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>>> My body felt like it was ON and buzzing, I just could not
> sleep, and I
>>> also did not feel tired.
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>> Yes, I've found several foods and supplements that do the
>> same thing to me. I always stop taking anything that
>> does this to me. You may be stirring up the toxins
>> in your body, but you need to do more than that --
>> you need to get them out of your body safely. You'd
>> be much better off taking something that mostly binds
>> to toxins which are already in your bloodstream --
>> antioxidants, activated charcoal, psyllium husks,
>> seaweed, etc.
>>
>>> 2. I developed a bitter taste in my mouth.
>>
>> I think most people call this a "metallic
>> taste" in your mouth. I experience this
>> often. This is supposedly heavy metals
>> being released. While this is a good
>> sign that you are doing something to
>> release heavy metals from your cells,
>> you must also find a way to do this
>> comfortably and also to get those
>> metals to leave your body. Again,
>> the items listed above would help
>> in that.
>>
>> I have personally found that the supplements
>> Megahydrin/Microhydrin/Active H- are
>> good at making me feel better when
>> I've taken something which has mobilized
>> too many toxins (e.g., when I get that
>> bitter taste in my mouth). I think
>> this is because it binds with the
>> toxins so that they can be safely
>> eliminated from the body without
>> adverse effects. But there are
>> lots of fruits and vegetables which
>> also have antioxidants, so you could
>> experiment. Carrots, for example
>> have lots of beta carotene.
>>
>> Marc
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