Re: shielding Notebook

Posted by Charles-3 on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/shielding-Notebook-tp1536902p1536941.html

Hello Beau,

I still maintain my meaning about those equations.
Let me go further.
I think it is a lot of bullshit.
No pun intended, but you cannot calculate the shielding effect.
You can only MEASURE the shielding effect, and must do that with several
different frequencies.
As is done by prof. Pauli of the University of the Bundeswehr (Army) in
Germany.
He is the authority for testing shielding materials.
And a lot of materials do react sometimes quite differently as expected!

The placing of a shielding material related to the source and related to the
person is also very important.
If the shielding is too close to the person, it can even raise the
elektrosmog.
That can be the case with those Baldachins around the bed, where by
*Ankopplungsspannungen* the body tension can raise enormously.
And in some ways the shielding material can also reinforce the incoming
radiation.

But a shielding material is not enough.

We have to look very hard at the longitudinal waves, which pass right
through shieldings.
(Here the other *things*, as mentioned in this group, come into focus. They
all have their working related to longitudinal waves)

It is an overwhelming new terrain.
But the answers to several questions raise much more new questions.

I realise, that for many of you, this item sounds like something out of Star
Trek, but it is a reality now, and explains a lot of what is happening and
why it is happening to many of us.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Beau" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 20:11
Subject: [eSens] Re: shielding Notebook


> Hi Charles,
>
> I respectfully disagree with you concerning the equation. Please note
> that I conditioned the equation's application by an a priori knowledge
> of frequencies by saying "*If we can take* the computer's CPU clock
> speed as its highest frequency component...". Of course, I do agree
> that we can't know all the frequencies without measuring them first.
> However, if we assume a maximum for the frequencies a body is emitting
> we have concurrently placed a minimum on the emitted wavelengths.
> Meshes with spacing smaller than this minimum wavelength begin to
> appear as continuous surfaces without holes for transverse EM.
>
> Also, I want to emphasize that I am not saying a mesh provides *total*
> shielding of the transverse EM from a notebook computer. Everyone,
> please pardon me if I inadvertently gave that impression by saying
> near the end of my previous message "...should readily shield the
> transverse emissions in the above example."
>
> Let me be more complete. Given a mesh with spacing much smaller than
> the minimum radiated wavelength, the level of shielding is dependent
> on the characteristics of the mesh material -- its depth, its
> permeability, its conductivity -- as well as the geometry and
> frequency of the radiated field encountering it.
>
> If we have an aluminum mesh enclosure fitting our spacing criteria
> with wire thickness of 0.25 mm, a 1 GHz transverse EM plane wave
> encountering it will be approximately attenuated to around
> 1/(2.718)^(100) its original amplitude after penetrating the mesh. A
> 100 MHz transverse EM plane wave will suffer attenuation to around
> 1/(2.718)^(33) its original amplitude. In near-field conditions, such
> as a mesh around a notebook computer, the level of shielding is more
> complex to calculate, but it will exist to some extent for these
> frequencies for both the electric and magnetic field components.
>
> Unfortunately, low-frequency transverse EM won't be hampered by this
> mesh even though it 'looks' like a smooth surface to it. For a 100 Hz
> transverse EM plane wave would require the mesh's depth to be 36x
> thicker (around 8.5 mm) just to attenuate it down to 1/3 its original
> amplitude.
>
> Beau
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Charles" <charles@c...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > this equeation does not work.
> >
> > You can't know what ferquencies are radiating from this thing.
> >
> > The damaging part are the magnetic fields emanating.
> > And we know that they can be heavy.
> > Especially above the keyboard, whereunder the hard disk and
> motherboard are
> > placed.
> >
> > My CRT monitor radiates hard with 91.1 kHz, but I found many other
> > frequencies.
> >
> > You may hold a world receiver in front of your laptop.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton Antivirus
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Beau" <netfarer2@y...>
> > To: <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 01:48
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: shielding Notebook
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Glenn & Randolf,
> > >
> > > If we can take the computer's CPU clock speed as its highest
> frequency
> > > component then the aperture/mesh size below which shielding for
> the
> > > computer will begin is:
> > >
> > > (0.3 m)/(CPU speed in GHz) or
> > > (300 m)/(CPU speed in MHz)
> > >
> > > Smaller aperture sizes than this work much better. For typical
> square
> > > mesh, divide by the square root of 2 to account for the diagonal
> of
> > > the mesh being its largest aperture width.
> > >
> > > For example, if we had a 1 GHz CPU, then square mesh below (30
> > > cm)/(sqrt 2) ~ (21 cm) will begin to confine the transverse EM
> > > radiation. A 1/4" square mesh has as its largest aperture width
> > > (0.25") * (1.414) ~ (0.35") ~ (0.89 cm) which should readily
> shield the
> > > transverse emissions in the above example.
> > >
> > > Beau
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <glennhcoleman@h...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I have thought of something similar, but to hook an external
> > > keyboard, and
> > > > use a wire-mesh fence between me and the notebook. I figure if
> wire
> > > mesh
> > > > works on microwaves it may work here too. I may even make a
> whole
> > > box
> > > > around my notebook with notebook sitting in cage.
> > > >
> > > > If it does work, then I can find a finer quality mesh so I can
> see
> > > monitor
> > > > better. I was going to start with some wire fencing with 1/4"
> > > holes to
> > > > begin with.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > From: "randolf_everywhere" <Thats@M...>
> > > > Reply-To: [hidden email]
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Subject: [eSens] shielding Notebook
> > > > Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:09:02 -0000
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking of shielding my Notebook. Maybe with paint or with
> > > > wallpaper on its outside. I tested and know shielding it will
> help.
> > > But I do
> > > > not know If there can occur problems when I do it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Randolf Weinand
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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