> So Lachlan,
>
> you are thinking about buying spectrum analysis equipment.
> Why?
> To what purpose?
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton Antivirus
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lachlan Mudge" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 08:36
> Subject: RE: [eSens] VLF
>
>
>
>>Pete
>>
>>What you are suggesting is exactly what I am proposing to do eventually,
>
> once I
>
>>can justify purchasing the spectrum analysis equipment. All we need is
>
> for
>
>>someone important with control over some government purse strings to
>
> realise
>
>>they have electrosensitivity and there might be a chance of getting this
>
> to
>
>>happen. Otherwise, it's a bank loan and a big financial risk instead.
>>
>>Lachlan
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: xmanflash2001 [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2004 6:05 PM
>>To: [hidden email]
>>Subject: Re: [eSens] VLF
>>
>>Excellent, thanks - I look forward to seeing this produced..
>>
>>It would be great to get together and do a collaborative effort to build
>>a chart containing all the general frequencies in households, and
>>whether they may be harmful or not..
>>
>>Maybe even a database of products with a 'Safe Distance' rating for the
>>general public.. Kind of like the general 'Efficiency' rating on
>>household appliances..
>>
>>I am sure this would help those who are not ES to think abit more
>>carefully about exposure, especially to children..
>>
>>Cheers
>>Pete
>>
>>Charles wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello Pete,
>>>
>>>this HAARP Detektor will be available shortly by PSE Priggen.
>>>www.priggen.de.vu
>>>
>>>Mine was a prototype, just for testing, but I want to have it for
>
> myself.
>
>>>Greetings,
>>>Charles Claessens
>>>member Verband Baubiologie
>>>www.milieuziektes.nl
>>>www.hetbitje.nl
>>>checked by Norton Antivirus
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "xmanflash2001" <[hidden email]>
>>>To: <[hidden email]>
>>>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 19:30
>>>Subject: Re: [eSens] VLF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Charles,
>>>>
>>>>Thats great info.. keep going :-) Where can I get one of those
>>>>meters? :-)
>>>>
>>>>" My wife complained quite some time that she does not feel when in
>
> the
>
>>>>neighbourhoud of my computer."
>>>>
>>>>My wife has had the same problem for years now. However, interestingly
>>>>tonight, she took a few grains of sea salt with a bit of water after
>>>>using the computer fro an hour and feeling quite sick, and the
>
> symptoms
>
>>>>went away almost immediately!!
>>>>
>>>>She was very excited, and came and told me about it.. She usually gets
>>>>giddy and sick after 10-20 mins on the computer, even with and LCD
>>>>screen. She has Coeliac and Chemical sensitivities as well..
>>>>
>>>>We will try it again to see if it was coincidental. My mother cured
>
> her
>
>>>>constant migrains by putting salt on her food after years of not doing
>>>
>>>that.
>>>
>>>>Wonder what the salt connection is .. I know I feel much better after
>
> a
>
>>>>swim in the sea..
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>Charles wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello gang,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am a little disturbed.
>>>>>I am testing a new prototype meter which measures signals from 5
>>>
>>>kHz to
>>>30
>>>
>>>>>kHz and from 30 kHz to 150 kHz.
>>>>>All other signals are filtered out.
>>>>>One can even measure the HAARP signals.
>>>>>
>>>>>So I am playing around a little bit, found a lot of radiation from
>
> my
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>>>>>television, even when the DC is shut off completely.
>>>>>
>>>>>My wife complained quite some time that she does not feel when in
>
> the
>
>>>>>neighbourhoud of my computer.
>>>>>As you can see (on the pictures on my website), I have taken some
>>>>>precautions, and I can sit all day in front of my computer, and
>
> those
>
>>>are
>>>
>>>>>very long days.
>>>>>Even at our table, some 4 meters away she had complaints.
>>>>>
>>>>>Our phone with cord (and batteries) is placed in the vicinity of the
>>>>>computer.
>>>>>Listening to those signals with this new meter showed something
>>>
>>>strange.
>>>
>>>>>After a few seconds the signal changed to another oner, and after
>>>
>>>another
>>>
>>>>>few seconds it changed back.
>>>>>I don not yet know why this occurs, but I changed this phone for
>>>>>another one
>>>>>(with a AC/DC adapter) I had laying around.
>>>>>The hearing of this one is not as good as the former one, but the
>>>
>>>signal
>>>
>>>>>does not come through so sharp.
>>>>>
>>>>>I placed the sounds on my website
>>>>>http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html
>>>>>
>>>>>The strange thing is, that from this moment on, my wife does not
>
> have
>
>>>her
>>>
>>>>>complaints.
>>>>>She can sit on front of my computer, does not have troubles while
>>>
>>>phoning
>>>
>>>>>and sitting on our table within 4 meters, shw does not complain any
>>>
>>>more.
>>>
>>>>>In order to detect the signals I had to hold the probe on a certain
>>>>>spot on
>>>>>the phone.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, such a weak VLF signal, of around 30 kHz, with about 100 V/m
>>>>>strengh may
>>>>>give electrosensible persons trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, I am a little disturbed by those circumstances.
>>>>>But I am probing on.
>>>>>A few months ago, we did not have this trouble, so somebody must
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> have
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>>>>>added
>>>>>those signals on our telephone lines.
>>>>>I checked with neighbours, but could not find those signals. Just
>>>
>>>sharp
>>>
>>>>>blips.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps it is some trigger signal for automatic eavesdroppers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, phones with cord can be dangerous also.
>>>>>
>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>Charles Claessens
>>>>>member Verband Baubiologie
>>>>>www.milieuziektes.nl
>>>>>www.hetbitje.nl
>>>>>checked by Norton Antivirus
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