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Charles-3 on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/VLF-tp1536681p1536746.html
So Lachlan,
you are thinking about buying spectrum analysis equipment.
Why?
To what purpose?
Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachlan Mudge" <
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To: <
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Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 08:36
Subject: RE: [eSens] VLF
>
> Pete
>
> What you are suggesting is exactly what I am proposing to do eventually,
once I
> can justify purchasing the spectrum analysis equipment. All we need is
for
> someone important with control over some government purse strings to
realise
> they have electrosensitivity and there might be a chance of getting this
to
> happen. Otherwise, it's a bank loan and a big financial risk instead.
>
> Lachlan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmanflash2001 [mailto:
[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2004 6:05 PM
> To:
[hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [eSens] VLF
>
> Excellent, thanks - I look forward to seeing this produced..
>
> It would be great to get together and do a collaborative effort to build
> a chart containing all the general frequencies in households, and
> whether they may be harmful or not..
>
> Maybe even a database of products with a 'Safe Distance' rating for the
> general public.. Kind of like the general 'Efficiency' rating on
> household appliances..
>
> I am sure this would help those who are not ES to think abit more
> carefully about exposure, especially to children..
>
> Cheers
> Pete
>
> Charles wrote:
>
> > Hello Pete,
> >
> > this HAARP Detektor will be available shortly by PSE Priggen.
> > www.priggen.de.vu
> >
> > Mine was a prototype, just for testing, but I want to have it for
myself.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton Antivirus
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "xmanflash2001" <
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> > To: <
[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 19:30
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] VLF
> >
> >
> > > Hi Charles,
> > >
> > > Thats great info.. keep going :-) Where can I get one of those
> > > meters? :-)
> > >
> > > " My wife complained quite some time that she does not feel when in
the
> > > neighbourhoud of my computer."
> > >
> > > My wife has had the same problem for years now. However, interestingly
> > > tonight, she took a few grains of sea salt with a bit of water after
> > > using the computer fro an hour and feeling quite sick, and the
symptoms
> > > went away almost immediately!!
> > >
> > > She was very excited, and came and told me about it.. She usually gets
> > > giddy and sick after 10-20 mins on the computer, even with and LCD
> > > screen. She has Coeliac and Chemical sensitivities as well..
> > >
> > > We will try it again to see if it was coincidental. My mother cured
her
> > > constant migrains by putting salt on her food after years of not doing
> > that.
> > >
> > > Wonder what the salt connection is .. I know I feel much better after
a
> > > swim in the sea..
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > Charles wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello gang,
> > > >
> > > > I am a little disturbed.
> > > > I am testing a new prototype meter which measures signals from 5
> > kHz to
> > 30
> > > > kHz and from 30 kHz to 150 kHz.
> > > > All other signals are filtered out.
> > > > One can even measure the HAARP signals.
> > > >
> > > > So I am playing around a little bit, found a lot of radiation from
my
> > > > television, even when the DC is shut off completely.
> > > >
> > > > My wife complained quite some time that she does not feel when in
the
> > > > neighbourhoud of my computer.
> > > > As you can see (on the pictures on my website), I have taken some
> > > > precautions, and I can sit all day in front of my computer, and
those
> > are
> > > > very long days.
> > > > Even at our table, some 4 meters away she had complaints.
> > > >
> > > > Our phone with cord (and batteries) is placed in the vicinity of the
> > > > computer.
> > > > Listening to those signals with this new meter showed something
> > strange.
> > > > After a few seconds the signal changed to another oner, and after
> > another
> > > > few seconds it changed back.
> > > > I don not yet know why this occurs, but I changed this phone for
> > > > another one
> > > > (with a AC/DC adapter) I had laying around.
> > > > The hearing of this one is not as good as the former one, but the
> > signal
> > > > does not come through so sharp.
> > > >
> > > > I placed the sounds on my website
> > > >
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html> > > >
> > > > The strange thing is, that from this moment on, my wife does not
have
> > her
> > > > complaints.
> > > > She can sit on front of my computer, does not have troubles while
> > phoning
> > > > and sitting on our table within 4 meters, shw does not complain any
> > more.
> > > >
> > > > In order to detect the signals I had to hold the probe on a certain
> > > > spot on
> > > > the phone.
> > > >
> > > > So, such a weak VLF signal, of around 30 kHz, with about 100 V/m
> > > > strengh may
> > > > give electrosensible persons trouble.
> > > >
> > > > So, I am a little disturbed by those circumstances.
> > > > But I am probing on.
> > > > A few months ago, we did not have this trouble, so somebody must
have
> > > > added
> > > > those signals on our telephone lines.
> > > > I checked with neighbours, but could not find those signals. Just
> > sharp
> > > > blips.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps it is some trigger signal for automatic eavesdroppers.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, phones with cord can be dangerous also.
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Charles Claessens
> > > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > > www.hetbitje.nl
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