> Hello Wille Borlin,
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> with Powerlines, we do generally not speak about frequencies.
> It is not the electrical alternating fields that are disturbing us.
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> It is the magnetic alternating fields that gives the most worry.
> We are lulled into oblivion with the remarks that a 100 uT, or microTesla is
> not to worry about, but we building biologists speak about nT, or NanoTesla.
> 100 uT is 100,000 nT.
> And we say, one should try to stay under 20 nT, in order not to get sick.
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> Magnetic fields one can feel.
> The TCO norm for computer monitors says 200 nT at 30 cm for the
> frequncyrange of 5-2000 Hz and 25 nT for the frequncy range from 2-400 KHz.
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> The background *noise* for cities is 50-60 nT, while on the countryside this
> is 20-30 nT (generally).
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> For electrosensible people, the combination of magnetic fields and the
> accompanying frequency can have another effect.
> Tests have shown that a certain person did not react to a strong magnetic
> field of 5000 nT at 50 Hz, but heavily on a weak 350 Hz field of only 30 nT.
> Also on a 150 and a 550 Hz field.
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> Some examples:
> Television when running: 50 cm 3500 nT
> idem when on standby; 50 cm 300 nT
> TL light: 50 cm 1100 nT
> Small trafo: 20 cm > 3000 nT
> El radio alarm clock: 20 cm 1000-2000 nT
> idem :5 cm 30,000 nT
> El heating blanket: 1 cm up to 10,000 nT
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> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/
> http://www.hese-project.org
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "WILLE BÖRLIN" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 17:59
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Interesting link and more...
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> Marc.
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> Being one of the sceptics that maybe should be
> moderated..................... ( in a democratic way of course ).
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> I want to ask a short question on the subject of frequency.
> Frequency seems to be a confusion for many participants of the list.
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> When you write about high-frequency noise in connection with power lines.
> What do you consider to be high-frequency?
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> Myself i, ( when talking about power-lines ), say that low frequency is
> up to some hundred hertz.
> Hi-frequency is up to about some hundred Khz to maybe 1 Mhz.
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> I found schematics for the Steltzer filters and they seemed very
> straight low-freq. nothing to really write home about.
> If they are expensive it is good for Mr. Steltzer.
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> On the subject of chi i don´t no first thing, which i admitt, but
> because it is old it does not have to work.
> It is quite boring to hear that something is old and hence is beyond
> critizism.
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> Wille Borlin
> SWEDEN
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>>>I am always questioning myself whether my observation is a
>>>result of a suggestion, and try to make both objectiive
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>>Yes, I don't make my observations lightly either. I find it
>>amusing when someone suggests that a "placebo effect" is taking
>>place, when on numerous occasions I have forgotten to use a
>>device (but *thought* I was using it) and started suffering
>>ill effects from EMF.
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>>Also, what exactly is the definition of a "New Age Device"?
>>Anything that is not an EMF filter or shield? Sounds like this
>>is simply a derogatory term from someone who is knowledgeable
>>about electrically engineering (hey, I subscribe to the "EE
>>TIMES" magazine myself), but not much else.
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>>For example, the Quantum Products device were invented by
>>an electrical engineer, and are based on the discoveries
>>of Quantum Physics. Also, it is supposed to reduce the
>>high frequency noise in the power lines. And yet this
>>is a "new age device"??? If the critics were really
>>interested in the truth, they'd get one (I'd be happy
>>to loan them one for free), and use their oscilliscope
>>and see the results for themselves.
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>>Also, the Springlife Polarizers I'm using a based on
>>the principles of life force energy, or "chi". Is "chi"
>>a new age concept, even though it's the basis of yoga,
>>chinese medicine, acupuncture, and the martial arts?
>>Things which have been used for hundreds (thousands?)
>>of years by millions (billions?) of people? And
>>again, we've got a Springlife Polarizers being lent
>>out to group members for free, and yet I don't see
>>these people asking to try it out...
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>>Marc
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