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Hello Wille Borlin,
with Powerlines, we do generally not speak about frequencies.
It is not the electrical alternating fields that are disturbing us.
It is the magnetic alternating fields that gives the most worry.
We are lulled into oblivion with the remarks that a 100 uT, or microTesla is
not to worry about, but we building biologists speak about nT, or NanoTesla.
100 uT is 100,000 nT.
And we say, one should try to stay under 20 nT, in order not to get sick.
Magnetic fields one can feel.
The TCO norm for computer monitors says 200 nT at 30 cm for the
frequncyrange of 5-2000 Hz and 25 nT for the frequncy range from 2-400 KHz.
The background *noise* for cities is 50-60 nT, while on the countryside this
is 20-30 nT (generally).
For electrosensible people, the combination of magnetic fields and the
accompanying frequency can have another effect.
Tests have shown that a certain person did not react to a strong magnetic
field of 5000 nT at 50 Hz, but heavily on a weak 350 Hz field of only 30 nT.
Also on a 150 and a 550 Hz field.
Some examples:
Television when running: 50 cm 3500 nT
idem when on standby; 50 cm 300 nT
TL light: 50 cm 1100 nT
Small trafo: 20 cm > 3000 nT
El radio alarm clock: 20 cm 1000-2000 nT
idem :5 cm 30,000 nT
El heating blanket: 1 cm up to 10,000 nT
Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 17:59
Subject: Re: [eSens] Interesting link and more...
Marc.
Being one of the sceptics that maybe should be
moderated..................... ( in a democratic way of course ).
I want to ask a short question on the subject of frequency.
Frequency seems to be a confusion for many participants of the list.
When you write about high-frequency noise in connection with power lines.
What do you consider to be high-frequency?
Myself i, ( when talking about power-lines ), say that low frequency is
up to some hundred hertz.
Hi-frequency is up to about some hundred Khz to maybe 1 Mhz.
I found schematics for the Steltzer filters and they seemed very
straight low-freq. nothing to really write home about.
If they are expensive it is good for Mr. Steltzer.
On the subject of chi i don´t no first thing, which i admitt, but
because it is old it does not have to work.
It is quite boring to hear that something is old and hence is beyond
critizism.
Wille Borlin
SWEDEN
Marc Martin wrote:
>>I am always questioning myself whether my observation is a
>>result of a suggestion, and try to make both objectiive
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>Yes, I don't make my observations lightly either. I find it
>amusing when someone suggests that a "placebo effect" is taking
>place, when on numerous occasions I have forgotten to use a
>device (but *thought* I was using it) and started suffering
>ill effects from EMF.
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>Also, what exactly is the definition of a "New Age Device"?
>Anything that is not an EMF filter or shield? Sounds like this
>is simply a derogatory term from someone who is knowledgeable
>about electrically engineering (hey, I subscribe to the "EE
>TIMES" magazine myself), but not much else.
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>For example, the Quantum Products device were invented by
>an electrical engineer, and are based on the discoveries
>of Quantum Physics. Also, it is supposed to reduce the
>high frequency noise in the power lines. And yet this
>is a "new age device"??? If the critics were really
>interested in the truth, they'd get one (I'd be happy
>to loan them one for free), and use their oscilliscope
>and see the results for themselves.
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>Also, the Springlife Polarizers I'm using a based on
>the principles of life force energy, or "chi". Is "chi"
>a new age concept, even though it's the basis of yoga,
>chinese medicine, acupuncture, and the martial arts?
>Things which have been used for hundreds (thousands?)
>of years by millions (billions?) of people? And
>again, we've got a Springlife Polarizers being lent
>out to group members for free, and yet I don't see
>these people asking to try it out...
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>Marc
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