Posted by charles-2 on
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Hello Wille Borlin,

firstly let me explain the matter of frequencies.
We call from 0 Hz up to about 1 Mhz low frequency, where from 0Hz to 20 Hz
we call extreme low frequency.
from 1 MHz up to in the 1 Ghz we call high frequency.
One of the reasons is, that in the low frequency field, the electrical and
the magnetical alternating field are separate, so they must be measured with
separate meters.
In the high frequency field, the electrical and the magnetic alternating
field are interwoven into each other. By measuring one field, the other can
be calculated.
Mostly we only measure the electrical field.
The building biologists speak in terms of uW/m2 (micro Watts per square
meter), the elctrical engineers speak about V/m, or Volts per meter.

DECT signals do have a special characteristic in sound (coming from a
meter), so it is very easy to distinguish it from other signals.
A number of high frequency meters do find it easily.
The cheapest is the Aaronia HF Detektor II (see *het bitje* september 2002,
on
http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/Pagina37.html)
Its sound quality is not so good, but with the earpeace it is better.
Then there is the Endotronic Esmog Spion.
(See *het bitje* april 2003) Extremely well in sound.
I use the Endotronic HF Digitmeter II, with a logarithmic periodic
directional antenna.
(pictures in *het bitje* juli 2003, and september 2002).
With it, I can locate DECT phones 3 houses away.
The above mentioned meters do have an AGC, automatic gain control.
They reinforce the weak signals to an audible level, which is NOT in
accordance to its signal strength.

For quantitative measurement I use the Gigahertz Solutions HF Analyser
HF58B, which has a special logarithmic periodic antenna.
(see *het bitje* October/Februari 2004)
Here the signals are proportional in strength as in audible level.
My statement that stone can reflect radio-waves is certainly not
sensational.
In fact it is quite common, and one has to take this into account when one
measures the HF radiation.
Around antennas and buildings, one has to look for reflections and take this
into account.
There the HF Digitmeter II is a very handy instrument (see the picture in
*het bitje* september 2002, where on page 13 a magnetic *Hotspot* antenna is
shown.
With it, I find socalled *hot-spots* in rooms. They have commonly the size
of a small football.
It is a spot where several HF radiation beams are coming together (from
phones, radio, television, radar, data, fax, etc.)
The first time I used it, I found a hotspot on the pillow of my wife, and on
the spot, where she always had a cold hip, on the bed. After shielding, it
was over.

Now the stone.
I measure around DECT phones up to 1800 uW/m2.
I do not know how much my neighbours DECT is transmitting.
I wrote: *> >On one wall I measure the DECT phone of an neighbour opposite
of our home,
> >145 uW/m2.
> >When I turn 180 degrees and measure our wall, I measure 85 uW/m2 EMF,
coming
> >from my appartment.*
That means, that through the neighbours wall is coming an amount of 145
uW/m2.
That goes through the corridor (2 meter) against my wall.
With my back against those 145 uW/m2, I measure, coming from my wall 85
uW/m2.
That is reflection coming from my wall. A few months ago, that was zilch!!!!
Inside my appartment I measure 35 uW/m2.
So, the stone brickwall is shielding something, but largely not enough.

What surprises me, is the fact, that now the wall is working like a
secundair antenna.
I know from a german writer, who wrote an interesting book on
electrosensibility, and who described a number of *things*, that worked very
well in the beginning, but later on seemed to absorb the negative influence
of the HF radiation, and started to emit it themselves.
We found this with for instance with the american BioElectrical Shield.
Putting it several days on a Purple Plate *cleaned* and charged it again.

Building materials can shield.
One can see that, when several buildings stand between you and the antenna.
That is the reason, that the swiss people are so mad about their socalled
low official radiation values.
These immission (not emission) values are quite normal with their thick
walls and small windows.

I hope that I answered your questions satisfactory.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/
http://www.hese-project.org
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----- Original Message -----
From: "WILLE BÖRLIN" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 18:08
Subject: Re: [eSens] Interesting link and more...

*manage*.
> >
> >in MHO.
> >
> >The church is the place for *believers*.
> >
> >EMF is based on facts.
> >The Pro-mobile phone people suggest, that everybody believes in ES, and
that
> >it is *something between the ears*.
> >But hundreds of studies have proved that EMF can cause biological
effects,
> >*without warming-up*.
> >Also it is said, that people already had symptoms of ES, before the
antennas home,
> >145 uW/m2.
> >When I turn 180 degrees and measure our wall, I measure 85 uW/m2 EMF,
coming cause,