Re: Re:[eSense] windows

Posted by charles-2 on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Re-eSense-windows-tp1535983p1536002.html

Hello Anders Eriksson,

you are quite right, my message does not appear in the complete message
listing on Yahoo.

I wrote on 01-03-2004:
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Hello Wille Borlin,

you wrote:
>Obviously the object must be to kill incoming radiation completely,
>always chase for the stars.............
>So why not always choose the best?

First of all, not many people can afford that.
There are people who have spend 60,000 dollars on shielding, and were
disappointed with the results!
The meaning of good shielding is, that you feel comfortable in your home.

There are cages, used by the military and research laboratories (a glimpse
you may see in my english version of *het bitje*), which they call *anechoic
rooms*. They are completely shielded.
A number of people have difficulties in there. They feel very uncomfortable
in it. I know people who had to leave after 10 minutes.
Astronauts nowadays do have a Schumann (7.83 Hz) frequency generator with
them, when they go out into space.
In an anechoic room, these Schumann frequencies are shielded off also.
The same goes for a totally shielded room.

Therefore I wrote:
>"But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded.
>Always leave something open."
There must always be an opening where the cosmic radiation can enter your
room.
Most of the time, the HF radiation comes from a horizontal level, and from a
few directions. It is not necessary to shield then in the opposite
directions. Only against the sides it is coming from.
The HF radiation goes straight away. It does not take bends or turns.
But it can reflect against certain surfaces.
Therefore a good HF meter is important to check and recheck.

You wrote:
>Finally you say that the paint has to be grounded.
>Grounding has absolutely no effect in medium and high-frequency shielding.
>Either you have a good shield or not.
Normally, when you shield against high frequencies, the used materials do
not have to be grounded, because the radiation will be absorbed and
transformed into heat.
But is is different with these paints. Contrary to the wallpapers, films,
etcetera, the paint is electrically conductive. It can therefore pick up
electrical AC fields from lines in the walls, and therefore it MUST be
grounded, according to safety regulations. So the grounding has nothing to
do with the high frequencies, but with the possible pick-up of low frequency
fields.

And! In my opinion, it is good to shield the bedroom, but use other *things*
at the same time.
Don't forget, dr. Gruen proved with his *watering the seeds*, that
longitudinal waves go right through a cage of Farady.
And for heavy electrosensible persons, those *things* are not enough;
shielding is also neccessary.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/
http://www.hese-project.org
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Eriksson" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 17:57
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re:[eSense] windows


> Sorry Charles,
>
> the only mail that I can find (in the complete message listing on Yahoo)
> that is on the same topic as my questions is this: "From: "charles"
> <cclaessens@c...> / Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:08 pm / Subject: Re:
> [eSens] windows", and it doesn't answer my questions!
>
> Here I repeat the questions:
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> 1) You say that the paint has to be grounded. Why?
> 2) "But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded.
> Always leave something open." Why?
>
> Anders Eriksson
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> charles wrote:
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> > Hello Anders Eriksson,
> >
> > I thought that I answered that in my posting of 01-03-2004.
> > Addressed to Wille Borlin in this eSens group.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/
> > http://www.hese-project.org
> > checked by Norton Antivirus
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anders Eriksson" <[hidden email]>
> > To: <[hidden email]>; "WILLE BÖRLIN"
> > <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:20
> > Subject: [eSens] Re:[eSense] windows
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Charles,
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> >>I am the suspicious one living in the shielded room!
> >>I am quite sure that if I had used "New Age stuff" as you and others in
> >>this list suggest for everyone who asks, then I probably wouldn't be
> >>here today (literally)!
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> >>I am still waiting for your answer/justificaton of your earlier
> >>statements that Wille Borlin commented, see below: (tagged "<>")
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> >>Wille Borlin wrote:
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> >>Well Charles.
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> >>I think we have some different approaches and i don´t think we can get
> >>much closer.
> >>Obviously the object must be to kill incoming radiation completely,
> >>always chase for the stars.............
> >>So why not always choose the best?
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> >>My friends cage has nothing to do with what was radiating ten years ago,
> >>it was so well planned that it is still state of the art,
> >> since the basic physics concerning radiation has not changed.
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> >><>Finally you say that the paint has to be grounded.
> >>Grounding has absolutely no effect in medium and high-frequency
shielding.

> >>Either you have a good shield or not.
> >>
> >>Which is a little mysterious when you say;
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> >><>"But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded.
> >>Always leave something open."
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> >>Why ?
> >>If you leave one sector open it may enhance the effects of radiation so
> >>once again, what do you mean?
> >>
> >>Wille Borlin
> >>SWEDEN
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> >>greetings,
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> >>Anders Eriksson
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