Is there anybody who can positively distinguish his symptoms coming from (unknown) source of EMF, from those arousing from chemical exposure, flu, and other similar causes?
I can't be very sure myself. Drasko [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Is there anybody who can positively distinguish his symptoms coming from
> (unknown) source of EMF, from those arousing from chemical exposure, flu, > and other similar causes? I have often had a difficult time at first, but by continually repeating my exposure to something, I can usually eventually figure out what's going on. Especially if I can take the suspected cause and move it with me to a different environment and then check again. Marc |
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I am not absolutely sure about what you are asking but I will answer
with how I understand your question. I get specific and predictable sensations when I am around cell phones or cell towers. I will first feel a burning on my face, ears or under my eyes and then a sharp spike on the top of my head. If I continue to stay in that area the top of my head will get hotter and the sharp pain will increase. I will next feel a pain in my lower left abdomen and then my focus gets blurry, my focus, concentration and memory is lost, and I get irritated. If I'm in the area long enough, my energy crashes and my chest gets heavy. This is from microwave/radio (cell phone, TV tower, etc) radiation. I don't know how it is related to chemicals or the toxins already inside me. I believe there is interaction and subsequent causality and I have take great steps to detox, etc. and rebuild my enzymes, nerves, cell functions, DNA, etc.... According to the research I have read, EMF is enough to cause these symptoms without the chemicals. There are huge chemical reactions in conjunction with chemicals, pesticides, etc. The Aventis flu vaccine has Triton X-100 as well as Mercury (Thimerosal) and formaldehyde (a known carcinogen). Triton X-100 can severely disrupt acetylcholinesterase (an essential neurotransmitter enzyme) activity if you have been exposed to Parathione (a common pesticide). The one thing I think you will understand and those on this list in particular is that the symptoms that I get are absolutely predictable, usually happen in order and are only triggered around cell phones and other radio/microwave radiation. I get different symptoms from magnetic fields around wiring and appliances. Hope this is what you were looking for. Andrew On Oct 21, 2004, at 10:18 PM, Drasko Cvijovic wrote: > > Is there anybody who can positively distinguish his symptoms coming > from (unknown) source of EMF, from those arousing from chemical > exposure, flu, and other similar causes? > > I can't be very sure myself. > > Drasko > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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The one symptom I notice that is different for me with ES vs chemical
exposure is headaches. Normally I don't get headaches from ES, but do with chemicals. Otherwise my symptoms between the two are very similar. I also find that when I get real bad ES, that it gives me more neurological imbalance than that of chemicals. Glenn ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <[hidden email]> Reply-To: [hidden email] To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] symptoms distinguishing Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:18:43 -0700 Is there anybody who can positively distinguish his symptoms coming from (unknown) source of EMF, from those arousing from chemical exposure, flu, and other similar causes? I can't be very sure myself. Drasko [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Andrew, Your description of symptoms is uncannily familiar: particulalry the sharp pain in the lower left abdomen. I've gotthat too, many times. The pain seems to have largely gone away following the ejuva cleanse I did, although after prolonged exposure, I can feel it hinting at a return. I'm consulting a variety of doctors, but haven't been able to get a stright answer yet as to what organ is actually in pain when this occurs. Any suggestions anyone? David --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@n...> wrote: > I am not absolutely sure about what you are asking but I will answer > with how I understand your question. > > I get specific and predictable sensations when I am around cell phones > or cell towers. I will first feel a burning on my face, ears or under > my eyes and then a sharp spike on the top of my head. If I continue to > stay in that area the top of my head will get hotter and the sharp pain > will increase. I will next feel a pain in my lower left abdomen and > then my focus gets blurry, my focus, concentration and memory is lost, > and I get irritated. If I'm in the area long enough, my energy crashes > and my chest gets heavy. This is from microwave/radio (cell phone, TV > tower, etc) radiation. > I don't know how it is related to chemicals or the toxins already > inside me. I believe there is interaction and subsequent causality and > I have take great steps to detox, etc. and rebuild my enzymes, nerves, > cell functions, DNA, etc.... > According to the research I have read, EMF is enough to cause these > symptoms without the chemicals. There are huge chemical reactions in > conjunction with chemicals, pesticides, etc. > The Aventis flu vaccine has Triton X-100 as well as Mercury > (Thimerosal) and formaldehyde (a known carcinogen). Triton X-100 can > severely disrupt acetylcholinesterase (an essential neurotransmitter > enzyme) activity if you have been exposed to Parathione (a common > pesticide). > The one thing I think you will understand and those on this list in > particular is that the symptoms that I get are absolutely predictable, > usually happen in order and are only triggered around cell phones and > other radio/microwave radiation. I get different symptoms from magnetic > fields around wiring and appliances. > Hope this is what you were looking for. > Andrew > On Oct 21, 2004, at 10:18 PM, Drasko Cvijovic wrote: > > > > > Is there anybody who can positively distinguish his symptoms coming > > from (unknown) source of EMF, from those arousing from chemical > > exposure, flu, and other similar causes? > > > > I can't be very sure myself. > > > > Drasko > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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I have a tough time with this, too, Drasko. When I get symptoms after smelling something, many times something nobody else around me can smell as well, I usually attribute it to a CS reaction to an aerosol or fume. If I feel a symptom arising first in an appendage or specific energy center other than in the head and/or accompanied by sensing a field, I attribute it to EM. Other than that I can't be sure what the trigger was unless it is something visibly obvious like a nearby cell phone or I have a reaction soon after eating/drinking something. And I've found that exposure to one type of incitant sensitizes me more strongly to the other. Beau --- In [hidden email], "Drasko Cvijovic" <pecina@c...> wrote: > Is there anybody who can positively distinguish his symptoms coming from (unknown) source of EMF, from those arousing from chemical exposure, flu, and other similar causes? > > I can't be very sure myself. > > Drasko > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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