sudden dramatic increase in sensitivity?

I have MCS and did have EMF sensitivity terribly after exposure to mycotoxins from black mold. After a lot of detoxing, the EMF sensitivity became mostly manageable.

Recently I have experienced a dramatic increase in my symptoms to EMF exposure. I can barely be in front of a computer or TV.

I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure this out as it's been a month and I'm slightly going mad trying to take away/adjust anything that might have caused it. Does any of the following sound like a possible cause?

1) recent installation of a cable tv connection
2) started taking Grace Ziem's protocol (included all sorts of supplements that I had previously been taking, but individually...e.g. Alpha lipoic, glutathione, Calcium d-glucanate, magnesium, etc)
3) Had carpets cleaned but with a so-called completely safe formula of pentasodium salt and triphosphoric acid

I'm also severely reacting to my car now, too, and it's becoming more and more incapacitating every day...numbness and pain in limbs, increased heart rate, extreme irritability, etc. I unplug everything all the time, but with this condition, the computer is my lifeline to the world, so is the car. And even with everything but air filters unplugged at night, I still go to bed and wake with intensely swollen hands. This is usually an EMF reaction for me.

Thanks for any help...I'm trying to be scientific but the longer this goes on, the more weak I'm getting and I could use guidance.

Jill


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Hi Jill,

You're probably redistributing mercury into the brain and nervous system with the lipoic acid.
More and more I get the idea that EMF sensitivity is very often plain chronic mercury intoxication.
Lipoic acid is a chelator, but about 3-4 hours after taking it, it is metabolised by the body and it drops the mercury back into the blood stream, from where it will flow into the brains, nervous system and critical organs.

My advice:
Stop the lipoic acid supplements immediately, get the book from www.noamalgam.com and *read* it and then reread it. Then decide to do something (taking out all amalgam or not, chelating or not).

I've been chelating for 10 weeks using lipoic acid (in a very strict protocol, otherwise it will only redistribute), and I'm getting quite convinced that the EMF sensitivity is reducing. I also feel a lot better, physically, mentally and emotionally.
It will take a lot longer than the 10 weeks to get all mercury out. All of it will have to get out to completely heal the EMF sensitivity. Based on my experience, I think the protocol in the book mentioned above is the best. The problem with coriander and chlorella and other so-called chelators (which they often aren't) is that they will cause more redistribution than excretion, hence worsening symptoms.

It will at least take a few days (after stopping the lipoic acid) for the sensitivity to decrease (for the body to remove all mercury from the bloodstream) and possibly the sensitivity will have increased semi-permanently because more mercury has entered the brain and nervous system.

I hope this helps!

Take care,
Ed

We'd seen explanations that when mercury is chelated, e.g. by alpha-lipoic acid, it then needs to be eliminated from the body. If the liver or associated systems aren't working well, the chelated mercury then gets released back again and it was suggested that it could indeed move to parts of the body where it did more harm than before, like the brain. Sue has felt this has happened to her a couple of times when she has chelated - she felt worse than ever after a few hours.

The broad thrust of different writings seemed to be that there are two elimination mechanisms - via the bile (and then the gut) or the kidneys (more for water-soluble compounds - the bile route is more for fat-soluble ones). With the bile route, if you have "leaky gut" (e.g. due to past severe candida) it is postulated that the bile and mercury get reabsorbed into the bloodstream before they can pass through the gut and be eliminated. Chlorella and activated charcoal have been suggested as ways to try to capture it before it is reabsorbed. For NDF, which is a very finely divided form of chlorella, the publicity states that it is water-soluble, so should mop up the mercury and expel it via the kidneys, thus giving a safe route even for leaky gut sufferers. However, when Sue tried NDF, she still got side reactions, even on an extremely low dose.

There are testimonies of one method or another working for various people, but so far we have not found any chelation route which didn't give Sue worse symptoms than her normal levels (not usually heightened ES, but a "black fog" of suicidal depression which clearly felt chemically induced.)

Best wishes, Ian and Sue
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Hi Jill,

You're probably redistributing mercury into the brain and nervous system with the lipoic acid.
More and more I get the idea that EMF sensitivity is very often plain chronic mercury intoxication.
Lipoic acid is a chelator, but about 3-4 hours after taking it, it is metabolised by the body and it drops the mercury back into the blood stream, from where it will flow into the brains, nervous system and critical organs.

My advice:
Stop the lipoic acid supplements immediately, get the book from www.noamalgam.com and *read* it and then reread it. Then decide to do something (taking out all amalgam or not, chelating or not).

I've been chelating for 10 weeks using lipoic acid (in a very strict protocol, otherwise it will only redistribute), and I'm getting quite convinced that the EMF sensitivity is reducing. I also feel a lot better, physically, mentally and emotionally.
It will take a lot longer than the 10 weeks to get all mercury out. All of it will have to get out to completely heal the EMF sensitivity. Based on my experience, I think the protocol in the book mentioned above is the best. The problem with coriander and chlorella and other so-called chelators (which they often aren't) is that they will cause more redistribution than excretion, hence worsening symptoms.

It will at least take a few days (after stopping the lipoic acid) for the sensitivity to decrease (for the body to remove all mercury from the bloodstream) and possibly the sensitivity will have increased semi-permanently because more mercury has entered the brain and nervous system.

I hope this helps!

Take care,
Ed




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I would suggest stopping the supplements - they might be too much for
your system to cope with. Try drinking some peppermeni tea as this is
good for the kidneys and will help with swollen hands - see how you go
over the next couple of days. The Bach flower essence 'Walnut' is
extremely helpful for both environmental influences and acts is
protective, if you can get some. But only take according to symptoms.
If you are 'of a certain age' it could be hormones causing over-
sensitivity as well. Sorry guys.

Sarah

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I have MCS and did have EMF sensitivity terribly after exposure to
mycotoxins from black mold. After a lot of detoxing, the EMF
sensitivity became mostly manageable.
 
Recently I have experienced a dramatic increase in my symptoms to EMF
exposure. I can barely be in front of a computer or TV.  
 
I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure this out as it's been a month
and I'm slightly going mad trying to take away/adjust anything that
might have caused it. Does any of the following sound like a possible
cause?
 
1) recent installation of a cable tv connection
2) started taking Grace Ziem's protocol (included all sorts of
supplements that I had previously been taking, but individually...e.g.
Alpha lipoic, glutathione, Calcium d-glucanate, magnesium, etc)
3) Had carpets cleaned but with a so-called completely safe formula of
pentasodium salt and triphosphoric acid
 
I'm also severely reacting to my car now, too, and it's becoming more
and more incapacitating every day...numbness and pain in limbs,
increased heart rate, extreme irritability, etc. I unplug everything
all the time, but with this condition, the computer is my lifeline to
the world, so is the car. And even with everything but air filters
unplugged at night, I still go to bed and wake with intensely swollen
hands. This is usually an EMF reaction for me.
 
Thanks for any help...I'm trying to be scientific but the longer this
goes on, the more weak I'm getting and I could use guidance.
 
Jill
 
 
"Never doubt that a small group of people
can change the world-indeed it is the only
thing that ever has."
Margaret Mead


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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:14:11 +0100, Sue and Ian Kemp wrote:

>There are testimonies of one method or another working for various people, but so far we have not found any chelation route which didn't give Sue worse symptoms than her normal levels (not usually heightened ES, but a "black fog" of suicidal depression which clearly felt chemically induced.)

Hi Ian and Sue,

Indeed, chelation is very difficult especially when damage has been done to the intestines.
Leaky gut and candida infections are often also *caused* by mercury, so this makes it even more difficult.

What helps for me is keeping the urine pH below 6.4 . If it's not below 6.4 I don't chelate using lipoic acid.
I use the Reams Biological Theory of Ionization to manage the bio-terrain.
Without it, chelation would be very, very difficult, if not impossible.
When the pH gets too high, for me this means I get severe redistribution problems and emotional problems, depression, extreme sadness, sleepyness, weakness.
Higher pH's are also correlated with constipation, especially when mercury toxicity is also present, as mercury destroys the nerve endings in the intestines, slowing down peristalsis.
If, however, I keep my pH in the right region, it works marvelously and I feel great, energetic and emotionally stable.
I chelate at 8 x 100mg alpha-lipoic acid per day, every 3 hours 100 mg and it works very well.

Chlorella works very poorly and seems to give only redistribution problems to me, even when my pH's are right.
NDF, I am not sure about. I do notice that the NDF stays in the system for up to about 8 days, because the stool keeps it black colour (which the chlorella component probably does).
I have decided to stop using NDF for a while and go back to using only lipoic acid, using the protocol described in Andrew Cutler's book.

If you think you have mercury toxicity I strongly suggest you buy his book, at www.noamalgam.com .
Whatever you do next, you will have a much better understanding of what's going on in you body.
Yes, many chemical substances are promoted in his book to manage symptoms, but I've decided I won't use them.
I only use the lipoic acid and a large amount of vitamin supplements and mineral supplements.

If you don't read the book, you will very likely aggravate the problem if you decide to just try some different chelators..

Good luck,

Ed,
the Netherlands

> If you are 'of a certain age' it could be hormones causing over-
> sensitivity as well.

Yes, but can't that be solved with some natural progesterone
cream from a health food store (or online) ?

Marc

Hi Jill,

The first item you mentioned, i.e., recent installation of a cable tv
connection could definitely be creating an issue for you. Rarely are
these cable connections correctly grounded, which means they need to
be connected to the same ground as the home wiring system. The ground
for your home wiring must also be correctly implemented which many
times is not the case, too. (A lot of older homes use the plumbing as
a ground!) Current loops through the cabling and home wiring can
result if both of these conditions are not met. This brings a whole
bunch of extra fields whose locations may be hard to predict or change
as the community power grid your home is a part varies in use
throughout the day.

And, even if you have a correct home and cable ground, the cable
frequencies can cause difficulty for some with ES, especially if it is
digital cable which is typically more inciting than analog signals.
You don't need an electric or magnetic field in the region to
potentially cause problems, the field can just be nearby.

The best way to test this is to disconnect the cable at the box where
it enters the home. Leave it disconnected for a week and see how you do.

Your carpet cleaning can also be giving you some difficulty as you've
got MCS, too. Even if you're not sensitive to the cleaning materials,
the cleaning process usually reactivates release of vapors from the
carpet material. This vapor release reactivation is stimulated by the
solvents like the triphosphoric acid you mentioned, as well as water
(another solvent), and high temperature. The vapors typically contain
things like formaldehyde, for example. In this case, you'll need to
air out the house for awhile, sometimes several weeks. Air filters,
unless they are guaranteed to remove things like formaldehyde gas,
won't help this drying out / deactivation process. Heating up the
house and airing it out many many times is the best thing that has
worked for other chemically sensitive people I've spoken with.

I'd try the cable disconnect right away and try to spend as much time
in fresh air and with open windows as possible. Supplement yourself
well, but don't take a lot of detoxifying things just yet as your
system sounds like it is already in overload.


Beau

--- In [hidden email], Jsverdlove@a... wrote:
>
> I have MCS and did have EMF sensitivity terribly after exposure to
mycotoxins from black mold. After a lot of detoxing, the EMF
sensitivity became mostly manageable.
>  
> Recently I have experienced a dramatic increase in my symptoms to
EMF exposure. I can barely be in front of a computer or TV.  
>  
> I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure this out as it's been a
month and I'm slightly going mad trying to take away/adjust anything
that might have caused it. Does any of the following sound like a
possible cause?
>  
> 1) recent installation of a cable tv connection
> 2) started taking Grace Ziem's protocol (included all sorts of
supplements that I had previously been taking, but individually...e.g.
Alpha lipoic, glutathione, Calcium d-glucanate, magnesium, etc)
> 3) Had carpets cleaned but with a so-called completely safe formula
of pentasodium salt and triphosphoric acid
>  
> I'm also severely reacting to my car now, too, and it's becoming
more and more incapacitating every day...numbness and pain in limbs,
increased heart rate, extreme irritability, etc. I unplug everything
all the time, but with this condition, the computer is my lifeline to
the world, so is the car. And even with everything but air filters
unplugged at night, I still go to bed and wake with intensely swollen
hands. This is usually an EMF reaction for me.
>  
> Thanks for any help...I'm trying to be scientific but the longer
this goes on, the more weak I'm getting and I could use guidance.