glenn -
thank you for all that info - where did you get the sticker? that's the only thing I don't have yet...oh, and the supplements you suggested (as a matter of fact, i'm keen on finding any good places to get supplements for less, too!) it's interesting about the thyroid because with all my tests, that still won't normalize. i'm on synthroid and t3 and they keep upping my T3 because my TSH is 6.7, or like that. I also do the niacin, up to 1000 a day, which i take before my daily sauna. Which brand do you like best? I think it defintiely helps. I might up my folic acid as well - how much do you suggest? with the other supplements, i'm all ears. been playing with lots of different stuff. just started the mbrotose, and also the NSP that's supposed to help MCS (from Key Pharmacy) dumb question, but i can just get any ol stack of pennies, right? thanks! jill "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Ghandi [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Jill,
I got my aulterra neutralizer sticker at the following link. I used to wear it like a necklace anytime at my computer (I just taped it to a piece of cardboard and put on string), and it seems to give some protection. It was very suttle but did make a difference. Marc mentioned he noticed results when using aulterra with his cell phone - that is what gave me idea to try it. http://www.aulterra.com/neutralizer.htm >I also do the niacin, up to 1000 a day, which i take before my daily sauna. >Which brand do you like best? I think it defintiely helps. I might up my >folic acid as well - how much do you suggest? I never thought about brand for my niacin - will consider it - thanks. I have been using Select (Safeway), and it works well. I'm up to 1000mg niacin 3 times/day. I take 25mg folic acid each morning. My dosages of niacin are excessively high to prevent depression - I'm going through extreme times right now - but staying on top of the wave! >with the other supplements, i'm all ears. been playing with lots of >different stuff. just started the mbrotose, and also the NSP that's >supposed to help >MCS (from Key Pharmacy) The USANA nutrition program is expensive, but it is quality and purity that seems to give it great healing power. The vitamin program without the shakes (save some money) is enough to give someone a very healthy balance of the highest quality vitamins. Many people have ailments go away that they didn't expect to go away. >dumb question, but i can just get any ol stack of pennies, right? Yes, any old stack of pennies. Cheers, Glenn |
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> Marc mentioned he noticed results when using aulterra with his cell phone
Oddly enough, on my recent trip to Hawaii, I was using my wife's cellphone, and the phone did bother me a *little* bit, so I'm not sure why it bothered me then but not the previous trip, when the previous trip I was using it much more. Perhaps the cellphone output varies depending on how far away it is from a tower? I don't know, but I did check and verify that I was using the same EMF protection devices -- the Aulterra sticker on the phone battery, and a Springlife OM pendant in my pocket. Also, count me in on thyroid problems. I've spent 3 years detoxing, and my nutritionist *still* muscle tests my thyroid as being loaded with mercury. I do respond well to seaweed-type supplements (I take "Sea Energy" these days), and seaweed is supposed to be good for the thyroid because of the iodine content. Marc |
Yes Marc The fainter the reception from a cell phone mast the harder the phone works so the radiation output increases. Two recent articles in British papers may be of interest. One from "Daily Mirror" Do not let your kids use mobiles2 banner headline on front page, smaller heading "radiation can alter their DNA, warn scientists. The article goes on to quote from an EU funded REFLEX group who carried out the research in seven European Countries using 12 research groups. The study cost £3 million and looked at radiation impact on animal and human cells. They found that cells exposed to mobile phone waves showed a significant increase in DNA damage. In some cases the damage was permanent. Worringly damage appeared to carry on into the next generation of cells. Mutated cells are seen as possible cause of cancer. The other article reported that Richard Branson millionaire owner of the Virgin Group was to stop all His Virgin Mobile Phone stores from selling to under 16 year old children following the death of a friend of his from a brain tumour possible linked to mobile phone use! Enough gloom! I hope all readers have a very happy Christmas and a healthier New Year! Ian |
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Yes, Marc,
Mobile phone power varies as I know about 100 times, from very low to 2W, depending on the current reception of the base station (tower)... It applies to GSM standard, I don't know how it goes with American standards, but probably the same. Drasko . Perhaps the cellphone output varies depending on how far away > it is from a tower? |
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Project Progress Summary Section 1: PROJECT IDENTIFICATION Title of the project: Risk Evaluation of Potential Environmental Hazards from Low Energy Electromagnetic Field (EMF) Exposure Using Sensitive in vitro Methods Acronym of the project: REFLEX Type of contract: Shared Cost RTD Total project cost (in euro) 3.149.621 ? Contract number Duration (in months) EU contribution (in euro) QLK4-CT-1999-01574 52 Months 2.059.450 ? Commencement date 1 February 2000 Period covered by the progress report 1 February 2000 - 31 May 2004 PROJECT COORDINATOR Name Prof. Dr. Franz Adlkofer Title Executive Director Address Pettenkoferstr. 33 D-80336 München Telephone +49 89 5309880 Telefax +49 89 53098829 E-mail address [hidden email] Key words (5 maximum - Please include specific keywords that best describe the project.). Electromagnetism, Bioeffects, Risk to Health World wide web address (the project's www address ) --- List of participants Provide all partners' details including their legal status in the contract i.e., contractor, assistant contractor (to which contractor?) 1. Prof. Dr. Franz Adlkofer, VERUM - Stiftung für Verhalten und Umwelt, Pettenkoferstrasse 33, D-80336 München, Germany, Tel: +49 89 5309880 / Fax: +49 89 53098829 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 2. Prof. Dr. Rudolf Tauber, Institut für Klinische Chemie, Universitätsklinikum Benjamin Franklin, Hindenburgdamm 30, D-12200 Berlin, Germany, Tel: +49 30 84452555 / Fax: +49 30 84554152 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 3. Prof. Dr. Hugo W. Rüdiger, Abteilung für Arbeitsmedizin, Universitätsklinik für Innere Medizin IV, Währinger Gürtel 18-20, A-1090 Wien, Austria, Tel: +43 1 404004701 / Fax: +43 1 4088011 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 4. Dr. Anna M. Wobus, Institut für Pflanzengenetik und Kulturpflanzenforschung, Corrensstrasse 3, D-06446 Gatersleben, Germany, Tel: +49 39482 5256 / Fax: +49 39482 5481 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 5. Dr. Angeles Trillo, Insalud, Ramon y Cajal Hospital, Carretera Colmenar km.9, E-28034 Madrid, Spain, Tel: +34 91 3368699 / Fax: +34 91 3368171 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 6. Prof. Dr. Dariusz Leszczynski, Radiobiology, STUK - Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority, Laippatie 4, FIN-0881 Helsinki, Finland, Tel: +358 9 75988694 / Fax: +358 9 75988556 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 7. Prof. Dr. Hans-Albert Kolb, Institut für Biophysik, Universität Hannover, Herrenhäuser Strasse 2, D-30419 Hannover, Germany, Tel: +49 511 7622612 / Fax: +49 511 7623830 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 8. Prof. Dr. Ferdinando Bersani, Universita degli Studi di Bologna, Viale Berti Pichat 6/2, I-40127 Bologna, Italy Tel: +39 (0)51 2095122 / Fax: +39 (0)51 2095050 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 9. Dr. Isabelle Lagroye, Laboratoire PIOM, ENSCPB, 16 Av. Pey Berland, F-33607 Pessac Cedex, France, Tel: +33 (0)5 40002821 / Fax: +33-(0)5 40006631 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 10. Prof. Dr. Niels Kuster, Institut für Integrierte Systeme, ETH Zentrum, Gloriastrasse 37/39, CH-8092 Zürich, Switzerland Tel: +41 1 632 2737 / Fax: +41 1 632 1057 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 11. Prof. Dr. Francesco Clementi, Cattedra di Farmacologia, Universita degli Studi di Milano, Via Vanvitelli 32, I-20129 Milano, Italy Tel: +39 (0)2 50316962 / Fax: +39 (0)2 7490574 / E-mail: [hidden email] (contractor) 12. Dr. Christian Maercker, Ressourcenzentrum für Genomforschung GmbH (RZPD), TP3 EG, Im Neuenheimer Feld 580, D-69120 Heidelberg, Germany; Tel: +49 6221 424741 / Fax: +49 6221 424704 / E-mail: [hidden email] Section 2: Project Progress Report NOT CONFIDENTIAL Objectives: Exposure to electromagnetic fields (EMF) in relation to health is a controversial topic throughout the industrial world. So far epidemiological and animal studies have generated conflicting data and thus uncertainty regarding possible adverse health effects. This situation has triggered controversies in communities especially in Europe with its high density of population and industry and the omnipresence of EMF in infrastructures and consumer products. These controversies are affecting the siting of facilities, leading people to relocate, schools to close or power lines to be re-sited, all at great expense. The causality between EMF exposure and disease can never be regarded as proven without knowledge and understanding of the basic mechanisms possibly triggered by EMF. To search for those basic mechanisms powerful technologies developed in toxicology and molecular biology were to be employed in the REFLEX project to investigate cellular and sub-cellular responses of living cells exposed to EMF in vitro. Results and Milestones: The strengths of REFLEX are based firstly on the adoption of a common technological platform for ELF-EMF and RF-EMF exposures that allow the replication of positive findings between the collaborating partners. Secondly, on the adoption of the post-genomic technologies (DNA microarrays and proteomics) that enables very large numbers of potential cellular effects to be examined simultaneously without prejudice as to mechanisms. The data obtained in the course of the REFLEX project showed that ELF-EMF had genotoxic effects on primary cell cultures of human fibroblasts and on other cell lines. These results were obtained in two laboratories and confirmed in two additional laboratories outside the REFLEX project, while no such effects could be observed in a further laboratory. ELF-EMF generated DNA strand breaks at a significant level at a flux density as low as 35 µT. There was a strong positive correlation between both the intensity and duration of exposure to ELF-EMF and the increase in single and double strand DNA breaks and micronuclei frequencies. Surprisingly this genotoxic effect was only observed when cells were exposed to intermittent ELF-EMF, but not to continuous exposure. Responsiveness of fibroblast to ELFEMF increased with the age of the donor and in the presence of specific genetic repair defects. The effect also differed among the other types of cells examined. In particular, lymphocytes from adult donors were not responsive. Chromosomal aberrations were also observed after ELF-EMF exposure of human fibroblasts. The following observations were made in different REFLEX laboratories: 1) ELF-EMF at a flux density of about 2 mT upregulated the expression of early genes, such as p21, c-jun and egr-1, in p53-deficient mouse embryonic stem cells, but not in healthy wildtype cells; 2) ELF-EMF (0.1 mT) increased the proliferation rate of neuroblastoma cells; and 3) ELF-EMF (0.8 mT) enhanced the differentiation of mouse stem cells into cardiomyocytes. However, no clear-cut and unequivocal effects of ELF-EMF on DNA synthesis, cell cycle, cell differentiation, cell proliferation and apoptosis were found. With respect to radiofrequency electromagnetic fields (RF-EMF), data showed that RF-EMF produced genotoxic effects in fibroblasts, granulosa cells and HL60 cells. Cells responded to RF-EMF exposure between SAR level 0.3 and 2 W/kg with a significant increase in single and double strand DNA breaks and in micronuclei frequency. Chromosomal aberrations in fibroblasts were observed after RF-EMF exposure. RFEMF at a SAR of 1.5 W/kg downregulated the expression of neuronal genes in neuronal precursor cells and upregulated the expression of early genes in p53-deficient embryonic stem cells, but not in wildtype cells. Proteomic analyses on human endothelial cell lines showed that exposure to RF-EMF changed the expression and phosphorylation of numerous, largely unidentified proteins. Among these proteins is the heat shock protein hsp27, a marker for cellular stress responses. There was no evidence that RF-EMF affected processes such as cell proliferation, apoptosis or immune cell functionality. For both ELF-EMF and RF-EMF, the results of the whole genome cDNA micro-array and proteomic analyses indicated that EMF may activate several groups of genes that play a role in cell division, cell proliferation and cell differentiation. At present the biological relevance of these findings can not be assessed. Benefits and Beneficiaries: The REFLEX data have made a substantial addition to the data base relating to genotoxic and phenotypic effects of both ELF-EMF and RF-EMF on in vitro cellular systems. The data neither preclude nor confirm a health risk due to EMF exposure nor was the project designed for this purpose. Its value lies in providing new data that will enable mechanisms of EMF effects to be studied more effectively than in the past. Furthermore, the REFLEX data provide new information that will be used for risk evaluation by WHO, IARC and ICNIRP. Future Actions: The REFLEX project has created novel results. From a scientific point of view, it has to be stated very clearly that the REFLEX data do not prove a causal link between EMF exposure and any adverse health effects. The genotoxic and phenotypic effects, which have been reported within REFLEX, clearly require further studies. These studies should include extensive external replications of the key observations reported, initially using the same technological platform. A further objective should be the extension of REFLEX investigations to appropriate animal models (e.g. genetically modified mice) and human volunteer studies. |
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